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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    According to https://www.rallylink.it/cms20/index.php/tuscan-2020 Marco Bulacia is 2020 Italian gravel champion. Despite competing in 3 rallies only. So fast are the Italian drivers.

    http://www.acisport.it/public/2020/p..._assolutya.pdf
    Italian gravel championship hasnt the good entries like the CIR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    Yeah, I remember him. He wasn't the most reliable driver at that time
    i talk about speed.You said that Italians are not fast.
    Kalle wasnt fast either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    i talk about speed.You said that Italians are not fast.
    Kalle wasnt fast either?
    I remember that Kalle was fast, but not reliable. He had a crash in nearly each rally.

    When it comes to the speed of Italian drivers, I'll give you an example. Alberto Battistoli can't be called a fast driver. In Rally Liepaja he was 17th overall. In Rally di Roma Capitale 20th. But in Tuscan Rewind he is easily third. Does it look like a highly competitive championship?

    CIR used to be great a few years ago - with Andreucci, Basso, Aghini, Travaglia, Rossetti etc, but I'm afraid those times are long gone, if a 19-year-old kid from Bolivia comes and wins the championship in just 3 rallies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    I remember that Kalle was fast, but not reliable. He had a crash in nearly each rally.
    He clipped curb on Ciocco damaging his suspension. In Adriactico he actually crashed or went off the road twice before retiring. Salento he hit a rock in a blind corner that was risen to the road from the previous driver who had cut that corner and you dare to call that "crash in nearly each rally"
    He would have also finished P2 in adriatico but electricial / fuel related issue stopped him on the final liaison and did pretty well in Rome, all that in piece of a shit 208 while being 17

    Also Bulacia did same rallies in Italy already back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    ... all that in piece of a shit 206...
    Andreucci won the title in the same car (and it's 208 btw).
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Andreucci won the title in the same car (and it's 208 btw).
    Andreucci somehow made the 208 work for him, there aint many who were able to do it with that car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Andreucci somehow made the 208 work for him, there aint many who were able to do it with that car.
    Abbring, Lefebvre or Breen disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    you dare to call that "crash in nearly each rally"
    There is a reason why Kalle had 4 times less points than Andreucci in the same car
    https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campio...ano_Rally_2017
    Last edited by Jarek Z; 22nd November 2020 at 19:35.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Abbring, Lefebvre or Breen disagree.
    Abbring is one of those "not many drivers". Breen last drove the car in 2015 and was he really that fast or happy with it? I don't think so. just look how many accidents and techinal difficulties he had with it.
    Also has Lefebvre even done events in 208? His R5 results no matter the car are also really shy of Kalle's ones.

    This is really getting out of topic now, but I don't get how Kalle always gets blamed for his season in Italy. IMO With all things considered it was pretty successful and was a perfect learning curve for him

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    There is a reason why Kalle had 4 times less points than Andreucci in the same car
    https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campio...ano_Rally_2017
    Is "crash in each rally" one of those things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    This is really getting out of topic now, but I don't get how Kalle always gets blamed for his season in Italy. IMO With all things considered it was pretty successful and was a perfect learning curve for him
    I haven't said a word about Kalle. You said the car was a piece of shit while Andreucci won the title with it. I reacted to that statement.
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