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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    true!
    maybe a long shot, but could that be, for different reasons, problems in stepping up to wrc+?

    it seems to me that generally wrc+ is more suitable for dirtier drivers.
    there is no class called wrc+. But if you mean the 2017 cars, I don't know really. In the end the cleanest drivers have gotten the best results.

    Mikkelsen and Loeb were also both fast on tarmac in the Citroen, so in that sense the theory isn't valid.

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    It's obvious that the difference between Hyundai and citröen is quite big, specialy on tarmac.

    Neighter Loeb or Mikkelsen has suddenly become bad tarmacdrivers, or gravel for that sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    there is no class called wrc+. But if you mean the 2017 cars, I don't know really. In the end the cleanest drivers have gotten the best results.

    Mikkelsen and Loeb were also both fast on tarmac in the Citroen, so in that sense the theory isn't valid.
    yeah, i know + isn't the real name, but everyone gets it as a nickname!

    true, but then ogier found it undrivable coming from other '17 spec cars, while mikk and loeb were at their first contact. lots of people said
    c3 philosophy was very different from other '17 specs wrc. maybe c3 was "loeb oriented" as a development of a winning car philosophy they had for a long time. but whit new specs that philosophy have been surpassed in favor of a dirtier driving flavor (with more powerful cars, the first time we saw them live, everybody said they were way more sideways than previous ones. neu, tanak, evans immediately benefitted)

    other data to add in the equation!!

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    Something happened in the C3 development in 2018 which compromised the tarmac pace but made it better on gravel. But there's not many months between Loeb winning Catalunya 2018 and Ogier struggling in Corsica 2019...

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    Pirelli rumoured to be using a C3 WRC for their testing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Didn't looked like that to me. I always thought loeb was driving cleaner than ogier.

    But then again, i have not seen them at the same age in the same car.
    +1 Ogier was more impressive more sideways,more sliding,Loeb was cleaner and more straight at his driving.
    Of course Mikkelsen has totally different style from them.Reminds me Latvalas style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    +1 Ogier was more impressive more sideways,more sliding,Loeb was cleaner and more straight at his driving.
    Of course Mikkelsen has totally different style from them.Reminds me Latvalas style.
    Actually Loeb's style was the most impressive - I still don't understand how he could be so fast and so straight at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Actually Loeb's style was the most impressive - I still don't understand how he could be so fast and so straight at the same time.
    Sideways equals slow in today's rallying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Sideways equals slow in today's rallying.
    That's what I was telling. It's more easy to push for the time and the car starts to go sideways. It's actually an art to keep the car straight and being ultra fast at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    yeah, i know + isn't the real name, but everyone gets it as a nickname!
    Not really. The first thing that comes to my mind seeing WRC+ is the online service provided by the WRC Promoter on wrc.com.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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