Rally History (part III)

[sednem]

Hi Americo again
Sachs Winter :4. ??? Mayer (???)/Hans-Dieter Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 6. ??? Mayer (???)/Hans-Dieter Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 9. Norbert(?) Brauer (DEU)/Lutz(?) Hage (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - I have Norbert and Lutz
Hessen : 9. Ralf Richter (DEU)/Burhard Wendel (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 -
By the way do you know first name of Baerdges - co-driver of Rena Blome (Saarland & Hessen) and R. Hofler/B. Hofler (Hessen)?
Regards
Janusz

Thanks Janusz,
Here what I have:
Rena Blome/Wiltraud Bärdges
Reinhard Höfler/Bruno Höfler

Regards.
Américo

[januszsz]

Thanks Janusz,
Here what I have:
Rena Blome/Wiltraud Bärdges
Reinhard Höfler/Bruno Höfler

Regards.
Américo

Thank you Americo for the names.
Yesterday eveningI browsed a bit on the site: http://www.top100-rallye.de/rallyede...sse/index.html and I found [B]Wilhelm[B] Mayer D Hans-Dieter Stock D Volkswagen Golf GTI
There was Wiltraud Baerdges too. And I am not sure if it is correct spelling with "ä" you used. That site is a German site, they use all those "ä", "ö", "ü" marks but they wrote Baerdges not Bärdges. Anybody German speaking can solve the problem?
Regards
Janusz

[sednem]

Hi, have you got the European Rally Championship Calendars of the years 1984-1985-1986?

Thanks in advance!!!!

Hi Matthew, here's what I have for 84:
1. (Coef: 2) 05/01 a 07/01 : Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 27/01 a 29/01 : Arctic Rally (FIN)
3. (Coef: 2) 03/02 a 05/02 : Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 10/02 a 12/02 : Swedish (SWE)
5. (Coef: 4) 18/02 a 19/02 : Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef: 2) 24/02 a 26/02 : Hankiralli (FIN)
7. (Coef: 2) 24/02 a 26/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
8. (Coef: 3) 17/03 a 18/03 : R.A.C.E. - Costa Blanca (ESP)
9. (Coef: 3) 29/03 a 31/03 : Rally di Sicilia/Targa Fiorio (ITA)
10. (Coef: 2) 30/03 a 01/04 : Rallye des Garrigues (FRA)
11. (Coef: 2) 06/04 a 08/04 : ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
12. (Coef: 1) 12/04 a 15/04 : ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
13. (Coef: 3) 14/04 a 15/04 : Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
14. (Coef: 2) 19/04 a 24/04 : Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
15. (Coef: 4) 26/04 a 29/04 : Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
16. (Coef: 4) 12/05 a 13/05 : Zlatni Piassatzi (BGR)
17. (Coef: 2) 18/05 a 20/05 : South Swedish (SWE)
18. (Coef: 2) 18/05 a 20/05 : Quattro Regioni (ITA)
19. (Coef: 2) 26/05 a 27/05 : Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT)
20. (Coef: 1) 26/05 a 27/05 : Rally Günaydin (TUR)
21. (Coef: 1) 02/06 a 03/06 : Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
22. (Coef: 2) 07/06 a 09/06 : Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
23. (Coef: 2) 09/06 a 12/06 : RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC)
24. (Coef: 2) 22/06 a 24/06 : ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
25. (Coef: 1) 22/06 a 24/06 : Rally Donau (ROM)
26. (Coef: 2) 28/06 a 30/06 : Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
27. (Coef: 4) 29/06 a 01/07 : 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
28. (Coef: 1) 29/06 a 30/06 : Barum Rally (CZE)
29. (Coef: 1) 14/07 a 15/07 : Skoda Rally (CSK)
30. (Coef: 1) 27/07 a 29/07 : Rally VIDA (BGR)
31. (Coef: 4) 03/08 a 05/08 : Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
32. (Coef: 3) 17/08 a 18/08 : Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
33. (Coef: 4) 20/08 a 22/08 : Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
34. (Coef: 1) 30/08 a 02/09 : Rally Piancavallo (ITA)
35. (Coef: 1) 31/08 a 02/09 : Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
36. (Coef: 2) 01/09 a 02/09 : Hebros Rallye (BGR)
37. (Coef: 2) 12/09 a 15/09 : Manx (GBR)
38. (Coef: 2) 14/09 a 16/09 : YU Rally (YUG)
39. (Coef: 2) 21/09 a 23/09 : Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP)
40. (Coef: 4) 24/09 a 28/09 : Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
41. (Coef: 2) 26/09 a 30/09 : Rallye International du Vin et du Valais (CHE)
42. (Coef: 3) 26/09 a 30/09 : Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef: 1) 06/10 a 07/10 : Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP)
44. (Coef: 3) 12/10 a 13/10 : Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
45. (Coef: 3) 26/10 a 28/10 : Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
46. (Coef: 2) 01/11 a 03/11 : Rali Lois Algarve (PRT)
47. (Coef: 1) 02/11 a 04/11 : Rallye du Condroz-Huy (BEL)
48. (Coef: 3) 08/11 a 11/11 : Rally di San Marino (SMR)
49. (Coef: 1) 24/11 a 25/11 : Rally du Var (FRA)

Regards
Américo.

[sednem]

Thank you Americo for the names.
Yesterday eveningI browsed a bit on the site: http://www.top100-rallye.de/rallyede...sse/index.html and I found [B]Wilhelm[B] Mayer D Hans-Dieter Stock D Volkswagen Golf GTI
There was Wiltraud Baerdges too. And I am not sure if it is correct spelling with "ä" you used. That site is a German site, they use all those "ä", "ö", "ü" marks but they wrote Baerdges not Bärdges. Anybody German speaking can solve the problem?
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz,

My little (very little) knowledge in German says that ä = ae... If somebody can clarify this "rule"...

Now, yesterday I was entering the data youn sent to me, and searching wich Zeltner co-drive Kottulinski at the 84's ARBO Rally and I fund this very interesting document : http://www.thomas-zeltner.com/statis..._1976_2010.pdf
Then for ARBO Rally 1984 you have Ted Kottulinski as Thomas driver's...

Best regards.
Américo

[Matthewrally87]

Ooooh!!!! Thank you sednem!!!!!

[Nenad Nikolic]

Hello,
For Januszs:
VIDA : 6-10th
06 Petr Vraj CS I. Nerusil CS Skoda 120 LS
07 Stefanov Tzvetzov Lada VFTS
08 Josef Sivik CS Pavel Vita CS Skoda 120 LS
09 Milan Tesar CS Vladimir Ondrousek CS Skoda 120LS
10 Jupam Bojadzievski Zastava 101

10 Matjaz Zupan/Blagoja Bojadzievski (Yugoslavia) Zastava 101

Regards.

[sednem]

Hi, have you got the European Rally Championship Calendars of the years 1984-1985-1986?

Thanks in advance!!!!

Hi Matthew,

I've just entered 1985 calendars into my DB... son here's what I have so far, with 2 littre remarks...
- it is based in the beggining of season calendar, so some dates can be wrong (some have been verified, but for coef 1 & 2 most are as of initial calendar and might be have changed during the season) so if somebody in this forum can verify it...
- Regarding round nº4: Swedish Rally. When cross cheking with rallybase.nl, Swedish Rally is given only as a WRC round, therefor in 1985 newspapers, Swedish rally count for ERC champship... Who's right??? BTW somebody has the final 1985 ERC Standings???

1. (Coef: 2) 04/01 a 05/01 : 16º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 18/01 a 20/01 : 20º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef: 2) 08/02 a 10/02 : 28º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 15/02 a 17/02 : 35° Rally Internacional da Suécia (SWE)
5. (Coef: 3) 21/02 a 24/02 : 33º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
7. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : 30º Hankiralli (FIN)
8. (Coef: 1) 16/03 a 17/03 : 33° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA)
9. (Coef: 3) 22/03 a 24/03 : 33º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España - Costa Blanca (ESP)
10. (Coef: 3) 28/03 a 31/03 : 6º Rallye des Garrigues (FRA)
11. (Coef: 2) 05/04 a 09/04 : 46º Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
12. (Coef: 3) 12/04 a 14/04 : 28º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
13. (Coef: 4) 17/04 a 19/04 : 8° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
14. (Coef: 1) 19/04 a 21/04 : 29º ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
15. (Coef: 4) 11/05 a 13/05 : 16º Rallye Internacional Albena-Areias Douradas (BGR)
16. (Coef: 2) 16/05 a 19/05 : 10º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE)
17. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 8º Saturnus Rally (SVN)
18. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 12º Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
19. (Coef: 3) 23/05 a 25/05 : 17° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
20. (Coef: 2) 23/05 a 26/05 : 36ª Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT)
21. (Coef: 1) 24/05 a 27/05 : 14° Rally Günaydin (TUR)
22. (Coef: 2) 06/06 a 09/06 : 34º ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
23. (Coef: 2) 08/06 a 11/06 : 40º RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC)
24. (Coef: 1) 14/06 a 15/06 : 20º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
25. (Coef: 2) 15/06 a 16/06 : 9° Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP)
26. (Coef: 2) 21/06 a 23/06 : 15º Barum Rally (CZE)
27. (Coef: 2) 28/06 a 30/06 : 21º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
28. (Coef: 3) 03/07 a 06/07 : 14º Rally di Sicilia/69º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
29. (Coef: 2) 05/07 a 06/07 : 42° Rali da Polónia (POL)
30. (Coef: 3) 11/07 a 13/07 : 18º Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
31. (Coef: 2) 18/07 a 20/07 : 12º Skoda Rally (CSK)
32. (Coef: 2) 25/07 a 28/07 : 8° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
33. (Coef: 4) 02/08 a 04/08 : 26º Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
34. (Coef: 2) 20/08 a 22/08 : Rally VIDA (BGR)
35. (Coef: 4) 26/08 a 29/08 : 10° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
36. (Coef: 2) 30/08 a 31/08 : Rally Piancavallo (ITA)
37. (Coef: 2) 01/09 a 02/09 : 14º Hebros Rallye (BGR)
38. (Coef: 2) 05/09 a 08/09 : 4º ADAC Rallye Deutschland (DEU)
39. (Coef: 2) 06/09 a 08/09 : 16º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
40. (Coef: 3) 11/09 a 14/09 : 23º Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally (GBR)
41. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 22º Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP)
42. (Coef: 4) 20/09 a 22/09 : 13º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 19º YU Rally (YUG)
44. (Coef: 4) 21/09 a 24/09 : 44º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
45. (Coef: 2) 28/09 a 29/09 : 26º Rallye International du Valais (CHE)
46. (Coef: 2) 17/10 a 20/10 : 20° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
47. (Coef: 4) 25/10 a 28/10 : 21° Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
48. (Coef: 2) 30/10 a 03/11 : 15º Rali Lois Algarve 1985 (PRT)
49. (Coef: 2) 08/11 a 11/11 : 13° Rally di San Marino (SMR)
50. (Coef: 1) 09/11 a 11/11 : 12º Rallye du Condroz-Huy (BEL)
51. (Coef: 1) 29/11 a 01/12 : 32º Rally du Var (FRA)

Regards.
Américo

[januszsz]

Hi Americo,
Here below are some answers and additions or corrections.
- Regarding round nº4: Swedish Rally. When cross cheking with rallybase.nl, Swedish Rally is given only as a WRC round, therefor in 1985 newspapers, Swedish rally count for ERC champship... Who's right??? SWEDISH WASN'T AN ERC ROUND THAT YEAR
BTW somebody has the final 1985 ERC Standings???
According to M. Holmes "World Rallying 8": 1.Cerrato 409, 2.Tabaton 264, 3.Servia 261, 4.Pregliasco 251, 5.Zanussi 250, 6.Biasion 245, 7. Demuth 221, 8.Beguin 188, 9.Brookes 186, 10.Kaby 184, 11.Kuzmic 183, 12.Grundel 180, 13.Snijers 170...

1. (Coef: 2) 04/01 a 05/01 : 16º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 18/01 a 20/01 : 20º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef: 2) 08/02 a 10/02 : 28º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 15/02 a 17/02 : 35° Rally Internacional da Suécia (SWE) NOT ERC
5. (Coef: 3) 21/02 a 24/02 : 33º Rally Costa Brava (ESP) 22-24.2
6. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU) 22-23.2
7. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : 30º Hankiralli (FIN) 23-24.2
8. (Coef: 1) 16/03 a 17/03 : 33° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA) 5-10.3
9. (Coef: 3) 22/03 a 24/03 : 33º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España - Costa Blanca (ESP)
10. (Coef: 3) 28/03 a 31/03 : 6º Rallye des Garrigues (FRA) 29-30.3
11. (Coef: 2) 05/04 a 09/04 : 46º Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
12. (Coef: 3) 12/04 a 14/04 : 28º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
13. (Coef: 4) 17/04 a 19/04 : 8° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
14. (Coef: 1) 19/04 a 21/04 : 29º ARBÖ Rally (AUT) 19-20.4
15. (Coef: 4) 11/05 a 13/05 : 16º Rallye Internacional Albena-Areias Douradas (BGR)
16. (Coef: 2) 16/05 a 19/05 : 10º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE) 15-19.5
17. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 8º Saturnus Rally (SVN)
18. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 12º Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
19. (Coef: 3) 23/05 a 25/05 : 17° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
20. (Coef: 2) 23/05 a 26/05 : 36ª Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT) 23-27.5
21. (Coef: 1) 24/05 a 27/05 : 14° Rally Günaydin (TUR) 24-26.5
22. (Coef: 2) 06/06 a 09/06 : 34º ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
23. (Coef: 2) 08/06 a 11/06 : 40º RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC) 6-11.6
24. (Coef: 1) 14/06 a 15/06 : 20º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
25. (Coef: 2) 15/06 a 16/06 : 9° Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP) 14-16.6
26. (Coef: 2) 21/06 a 23/06 : 15º Barum Rally (CZE) 20-23.6
27. (Coef: 2) 28/06 a 30/06 : 21º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
28. (Coef: 3) 03/07 a 06/07 : 14º Rally di Sicilia/69º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
29. (Coef: 2) 05/07 a 06/07 : 42° Rali da Polónia (POL)
30. (Coef: 3) 11/07 a 13/07 : 18º Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
31. (Coef: 2) 18/07 a 20/07 : 12º Skoda Rally (CSK) 18-21.7
32. (Coef: 2) 25/07 a 28/07 : 8° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
33. (Coef: 4) 02/08 a 04/08 : 26º Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
34. (Coef: 2) 20/08 a 22/08 : Rally VIDA (BGR) 17-18.8 IT WAS 14TH INT. RALLY VIDA
35. (Coef: 4) 26/08 a 29/08 : 10° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
36. (Coef: 2) 30/08 a 31/08 : Rally Piancavallo (ITA) IT WAS 6TH RALLY PIANCAVALLO
37. (Coef: 2) 01/09 a 02/09 : 14º Hebros Rallye (BGR)
38. (Coef: 2) 05/09 a 08/09 : 4º ADAC Rallye Deutschland (DEU)
39. (Coef: 2) 06/09 a 08/09 : 16º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
40. (Coef: 3) 11/09 a 14/09 : 23º Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally (GBR)
41. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 22º Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP) 21-22.9
42. (Coef: 4) 20/09 a 22/09 : 13º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 19º YU Rally (YUG)
44. (Coef: 4) 21/09 a 24/09 : 44º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
45. (Coef: 2) 28/09 a 29/09 : 26º Rallye International du Valais (CHE) 25-29.9
46. (Coef: 2) 17/10 a 20/10 : 20° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
47. (Coef: 4) 25/10 a 28/10 : 21° Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
48. (Coef: 2) 30/10 a 03/11 : 15º Rali Lois Algarve 1985 (PRT) 31.10-2-11
49. (Coef: 2) 08/11 a 11/11 : 13° Rally di San Marino (SMR) 8-10.11
50. (Coef: 1) 09/11 a 11/11 : 12º Rallye du Condroz-Huy (BEL)
51. (Coef: 1) 29/11 a 01/12 : 32º Rally du Var (FRA)

That's all.
Regards
Janusz

[C64WDU]

Can anyone help with rear pictures of Marc Duez 6r4 hunsrück rallye 86. I am trying to make a model but cannot find rear pictures.

Cheers, Dave

[Matthewrally87]

Thanks so much sednem and januszsz!!!!!