Thread: Rally History (part III)
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3rd September 2011, 15:59 #1621
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Hi Focus,
Sorry for wrong information. In 1955 Adriatic Rally was probably held from 20th to 24th of July, not in September.
May you help me with swiss rallies and first names of Swiss drivers?
At the begining, do you have top 10 of Rallye de Geneve 1971 and top 10 of Rallye de Lugano 1974?
I am looking also for full result and a report of Rallye de Geneve 1968.
Thank you in advance
Janusz
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3rd September 2011, 16:32 #1622
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Hi januszsz
Even if I have the Swiss flag on the forum, I'm actually an Italian, so I'm not an expert about Swiss rallies / drivers. Maybe I can help you with some Italian rallies / drivers, but I'm only interested in ERC, so I don't have results about just national Italian rallies.
Anyway, this is all what I have:
Rallye de Geneve 1968 (I have only a uncomplete top 10)
1) Pauli Toivonen/??? Vihervaava - Porsche 911
2) Lucien Bianchi/J??? Jacquemin - Alfa Romeo GTA
3) Guy Verrier/Francois Murac - Alfa Romeo GTA
4) Gilbert Staepelaere/Andre Aerts - Ford Cortina
5) ??? Blank/??? - Porsche 911
6) ??? Cochet/??? - Porsche 911
7) Bob Wollek/??? - Renault R8 Gordini
8) Claude Haldi/??? - Porsche 911
9) Jean-Jacques Thuner/??? - Triumph TR5
10) ??? Labaune/??? - Alfa Romeo GTA
Rallye de Geneve 1971
1) Jean-Pierre Nicolas / Jean Todt - Alpine Renault A110
2) Jacques Henry/ ??? Grobot - Alpine Renault A110
3) Claude Haldi/ Eric Chapuis - Porsche 911 S
4) Florian Vetsch/ ??? Olivier - Porsche 911 S
5) Marie-Pierre Palayer/ Christine Rouff - Alpine Renault A110
6) Bernard Fiorentino / Maurice Gélin - Simca CG
7) ???
8) Guy Chasseuil / ??? - Alfa Romeo 1750
9) ???
10) ???
Rallye de Lugano 1974 nothing, except:
1) Walter Rohrl / ??? - Opel Ascona
In the next weeks I will search more about this, I will post here if I find something else
Regards
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4th September 2011, 19:14 #1623
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Originally Posted by focus206
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6th September 2011, 16:52 #1624
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Originally Posted by stanislav197
2/Sesriere - 8-10 th
8. #??? Roger Masson (FRA)/Roger Laurent (BEL) - -
9. #??? Giorgio Superti (ITA)/??? Fiorani (ITA) - Fiat -
10. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/Alzary de Rocquefort (FRA) - -
3/RAC - 7-10 th (also have only top6...)
4/Acropolis - 7 th
7. #??? P. Chenevoy (FRA)/J. Deguerce (FRA) - Porsche 356 -
5/Tulpen - 6-9 th (also have onlyn top5)
6/Geneve - 2-9 th
2. #??? ??? Beyer (???)/??? Perrot (???) - Porsche 356 Carrera 1500GS - 1.00 pts
3. #??? Bruno Martignoni (ITA)/??? Vanini (ITA) - Alfa Romeo 1900 Ti - 5.10 pts
4. #??? Ruth Lautmann (DEU)/R. Utermöhl (DEU) - Ford Taunus 15M - 5.27 pts
5. #??? Georges Houel (FRA)/R. Bertramnier (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1900C Super Sprint Zagato - 7.73 pts
6. #??? Cedric (FRA)/??? Calame (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1900C Super Sprint Zagato - 9.16 pts
7. #??? ??? Wicky (CHE)/Carlo Bornand (CHE) - Triumph TR2 - 10.68 pts
8. #??? ??? Steffen (???)/??? Görgen (???) - Peugeot 403 - 15.89 pts
9. #??? Robert Dubuet (FRA)/«Dupré» (FRA) - Peugeot 403 - 17.66 pts
10. #??? Walter Schock (DEU)/Rolf Moll (DEU) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL - 18.20 pts
7/Midnattssolen - 7-10 th (have onlyn top5)
10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th
7. #??? Roger de Lageneste (FRA)/Michel Nicol (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #66 Georges Harris (BEL)/??? Jacqmin (BEL) - Volvo PV444 -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/Lucien Bianchi (BEL) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
10. #??? Bessey (FRA)/Bernard Pichon (FRA) - Triumph -
11/Viking - 8-9 th
8. #??? Lars Askersrud (NOR)/Gunnar Stenslie (NOR) - Ford Anglia -
9. #??? Ulf Strindlund (SWE)/Fred Brolin (SWE) - Peugeot 403 -
12/Adriatic - 7-10 th (have onlyn top5)
13/Iberia - 2-10 th
2. #12 Javier Sanglas (ESP)/??? Sanglas (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint - 43.938 pts
3. #73 José Valente (PRT) - Porsche 356 -
4. #5 Esteban Sala (ESP)/Victor Sagi (ESP) - Fiat Zagato v8 -
5. #28 Gerardo de Andrés (ESP) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL -
6. #39 Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - Porsche 356 -
7. #83 Carlos Faustino (PRT) - Panhard -
8. #101 Francisco Pereira (PRT) - Lancia -
9. #9 Carlos Mach (ESP) - Mercedes-Benz 190SL -
10. #88 João Azevedo (PRT) - Triumph -
So if someone can say:
RAC Rally 7-10th...
Tulpen 7-10th...
Midnattssolen 6-10th...
Adriatic 6-10th
it will be nice...
Best Regards
Américo!
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6th September 2011, 17:01 #1625
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Originally Posted by januszsz
For Adriatic 1955 I have 20-24 July...
Regarding your swiss results missing here's what I have...
Rali de Genève 1968
1. #??? Pauli Toivonen (FIN)/Urpo Vihervaara (FIN) - Porsche 911 T - 4170 pts
2. #??? Lucien Bianchi (BEL)/Jean-Marie Jacquemin (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA - 4368 pts
3. #??? Guy Verrier (FRA)/Francis Murac (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA - 4432 pts
4. #??? Gilbert Staepelaere (BEL)/André Aerts (BEL) - Ford Escort TwinCam -
5. #??? Bernard Blank (CHE)/Freddy Karrer (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -
Rali de Genève 1971
1. #??? Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Jean Todt (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
2. #??? Jacques Henry (FRA)/Étienne Grobot (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
3. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
4. #??? Florian Vetsch (CHE)/??? Olivier (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
5. #??? Marie-Pierre Palayer (FRA)/Christine Rouff (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Bernard Fiorentino (FRA)/Maurice Gélin (FRA) - Simca CG 2200 Coupé -
8. #??? Guy Chasseuil (FRA)/Christian Baron (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1750 -
(seems 7,9 and 10th are pretty hard to fund...)
Rallye de Lugano 1974
1. #??? Walter Röhrl (DEU)/Jochen Berger (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
2. #??? Anna Cambiaghi (ITA)/Luana Vanzi (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye -
3. #??? Carlo Bianchi (ITA)/??? Silva (???) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
4. #??? ??? Beretta (???)/??? Pirovano (???) - -
5. #??? ??? Finzi (???)/??? Faggioli (???) - -
6. #??? Cesare De Angelis (ITA)/Giuseppe Gasparoli (ITA) - -
If there is somebody with 7-10th (and the some missing makes)...
Best regards
Américo!
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6th September 2011, 17:13 #1626
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Originally Posted by sednem
I can add this to the results of 1968 Rallye de Geneve: the complete name of Cochet should be Jean-Jacques and he's Swiss.
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6th September 2011, 19:16 #1627
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Originally Posted by sednem
"Bessey" was a pseudonyme of Bernard Consten.
Do you have starting number of Rali Iberico'56 winner Fernando Stock? Do you know number of starters/finishers of that rally?
Regards
Janusz
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6th September 2011, 19:22 #1628
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Thank,Americo. Help me for result ERC-1957 :1/Sestriere - 6-10 th ;2/Akropolis - 6-10 th ;5/Midnight sun - 7-10 th ;6/Geneve - 2,5,8,9 th ;7/Adriatic - 1-9 th ;8/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th and ERC-1958 :2/Sestriere - 2,4,6,8-10 th ;3/RAC - 5,7-10 th ;4/Akropolis - 6-10 th ;5/Tulpen - 6 th ;6/Wisbaden - 6-10 th ;8/Coupe des Alpes - 8-9 th ;9/Adriatic - 3-10 th ;10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 3,6-10 th
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6th September 2011, 19:59 #1629
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Originally Posted by DIMI44
Normal you have only 6, Dimi, In 1953 Acroipolis there were 26 starting crews an only 6 finished!
Best regards
Américo!
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6th September 2011, 20:27 #1630
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RALLY ACROPOLIS 1957.
6.L.Di PRIOLO / Di PRIOLO Car No 37 Alfa Romeo 1,9
7.GUIDI /Mme GUIDI Car No 39 Alfa Romeo 1,9
8. Alkis MICHOS (GR) /A.ANTONIOU (GR) Car No 19 Alfa Romeo GSV
9.P.GUIRAUD /A.BEAU Car No 48 Peugeot 403
10.K. NICOLOPOULOS (GR)/S.KALOUDIS (GR) Car No 66 Alfa Romeo Gulia
RALLY ACROPOLIS 1958
6.Alkis MICHOS / A. ANTONIOU Car No 19 Alfa Romeo GSV
7. Nikos FILINIS (GR) /S. ZANNOS (GR) Car No 69 D.K.W.
8.DE LA SENESTRE /R.BLANCHET Car No 23 Peugeot 403
9.MENZ /S.EICKELMAN Car No 56 Auto Union 1000
10.H.BLANCHOUD /R.BERGER Car No 77 Saab 93
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