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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    Cant say that I agree with those statements. Kubica on tests are too often to fast with to high risk, resulting in a too narrow set up, and also to aggressive driving on the rally proper, leading to multiple offs - even on one and the same rally. Kubica needs to learn three things to become a very good rally driver, but so far its just more of the same. Very impressive speed, extremely high risk.
    i said about well known tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    i said about well known tests.
    I heard You.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    I heard You.
    you heard me,but you write for multiple offs at one rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Man, Sordo seems really fast on that testing vid but the car seems to be quite nervous and tail happy for me but then again im not a specialist.
    It seems like a result of several compromises, something that leads me to think that either the geometry or the roll centre or a combination is a little bit on the extreme side. But it can be other things to.

    As dimviii points out the car is actually a little understeered, thats why You have these tail slides on the exit, and it can seem oversteered (tough the opposite is true). To conquer the understeer its quite aggressive on initial turn in, and thats probably why it seems nervous.
    When it comes to this understeering bit this dont need to be a bad thing, but You have to be able to drive it correctly. If Your tail always slides out on the exit, thats a sign that You are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    you heard me,but you write for multiple offs at one rally.
    Yes.
    When Kubica tests, especially on test stages he knows well, he drives too fast and with to high risk. One thing is that this leads to small or larger errors on the test. But this also leads to problems in set up, because of the load he will generate trough the suspension and tires is much higher than he is able to on the proper rally - because there he doesn't know the stages that well. And this also says a lot off his point of perspective in regards to driving fast. He uses circuit racing techniques when You can drive 110%, because if You go 10% wider, are 10% to late on the brakes, take a corner 10% to early, You have room to straighten it out whit out crashing, but just loosing a little bit of time.
    Kubica is a great driver, no doubt about it, but he needs to understand rally to be good at it. And by being good at it I dont mean setting some good stage times, and then crash on the next, but deliver good race results.

    Kubica is almost a little irritating, because he is such a good driver, and he would use so little time to crack the code if he was coached correctly. I hope that he could meet someone, or have a personal epiphany that leads him on the right path.
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    Looks like he may not have a chance to finish the learning. He is not on Rally Sweden entry list and this probably means that he wasn't able to secure budget to do WRC.

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    Østberg looks to be reunited with the Fiesta, and as it looked, we see more of his old natural driving style.
    I guess the teamwork with Fløene also is gelled in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    On Camilli: Testing different set ups and different lines/driving techniques is how You should do a test.
    Yep, it will look different every time he tries a new set up, but overall he may have a bit more aggressive driving style than the other frenchies. Unlike Loeb and Ogier, Camilli has serious karting roots, with some top level results ( http://www.rallye-sport.fr/eric-camilli-futur-grand/ )

    Btw, Suninen also came from Karting. It's great to see young kids choosing to start a rally career instead of staying on the track racing path!
    Rally addict since 1982

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