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  1. Thread: WRC future

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    We will get a switch to full electric before any...

    We will get a switch to full electric before any "fuel saving" points.
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    For these big manus the WRC expenses are...

    For these big manus the WRC expenses are basically a rounding error on their yearly results.

    It's all about the will and image.

    VW had to show they are saving money ( to their shareholders)...
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    So what's your solution? Keep burning oil and...

    So what's your solution? Keep burning oil and drive 50k/year or build up hydrogen infrastructure from absolute zero?

    Electric infrastructure is there in every country already, even without...
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    No you are competing with reality. When it...

    No you are competing with reality. When it doesn't follow your dreams you keep hoping a miracle happens.

    I was skeptical to electric cars for whole lots of reason, but I am not blind to the...
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    Now you are starting to mix things together and...

    Now you are starting to mix things together and even contradict yourself:

    - primary power source is an issue. I guess most people agree that pumping dead dinosaurs is not sustainable in the long...
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    Nobody is saying that you don't need charging...

    Nobody is saying that you don't need charging stations etc. But even with over 50% electric sales it takes many years for most cars on the road to be electric. (here it's some 12% atm).

    This gives...
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    In this country they are. (Continously over 50%...

    In this country they are. (Continously over 50% of new car sales for last two years, 350 000+ cars on the road).

    Still waiting for the issues that people from countries where there are close to no...
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    - For local polution electric cars are green, no...

    - For local polution electric cars are green, no perception there

    - For CO2 as you write, it depends entirely on how the electricity is made. I also like reading studies on the matter, some are...
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    Stand on a busy city corner during cold winter...

    Stand on a busy city corner during cold winter morning and tell me cars without exhaust are just a perception of green.
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    Sound is the only "real" issue that prevents...

    Sound is the only "real" issue that prevents electric rallying. Not only due to the security aspect but also due to the "excitement" aspect and "sporting" aspect (knowing what the driver is doing...
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    The current cars are such an epic success that we...

    The current cars are such an epic success that we are now down to 2 manus, maybe 1,5 next year.

    (EDIT: Current rules were great in 2017 (5 manus!), and the first 3 years of the cycle. These last...
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    a) I agree that some extra sound is neeed. Paddon...

    a) I agree that some extra sound is neeed. Paddon already added "sound amplifier" to his electric car, keeping same sound just making it louder. I'd say it's a better solution than putting artificial...
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    They were delayed cause FIA and "teams" (not...

    They were delayed cause FIA and "teams" (not VW/Peugeot etc leadership but actuall rallycross team leadership) were too slow making new rules.

    Corporate leadership might want something but making...
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    What? WRX collapsed after electric cars were...

    What? WRX collapsed after electric cars were delayed... manus (mostly VW with two brands - VW and Audi, followed by Peugeot) said it was too long to wait two years.
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    We do have some recent statistics of WRC cars...

    We do have some recent statistics of WRC cars burning out completely at WRC ralies, only those that I rememeber immediately- Lappi Fiesta Mexico 2020, Breen C3 Turkey 2018, Paddon/Tanak Portugal...
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    I find this extremely hard to believe. In a 2022...

    I find this extremely hard to believe. In a 2022 hybrid the battery does not need to be very large afaik (haven't seen any details). Certainly not on the order of the whole car bottom like it is on...
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    At this time my view is that 2022 regulations...

    At this time my view is that 2022 regulations were absolutely necessary to keep the sport alive. If they only kept current ones, I think Ford would withdraw any last bits of their support.
    I would...
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    That's also the main worry for me, much more than...

    That's also the main worry for me, much more than having a bit more SSS-like stages.

    We went from events with 300-320 km over 3 or 4 days to suddenly having events with 220 km over 2.... and...
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    On the topic of Monza: I too was thinking how...

    On the topic of Monza:

    I too was thinking how interesting it was with rain, gravel parts etc on the circuit on Friday compared with the usual superspecials where everyone ends within 2s and only...
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    I find RWD cars quite boring to watch tbh....

    I find RWD cars quite boring to watch tbh. Especially in slow and high speed corners. Slow corners it's just lots of wheelspin and nothing going on, high speed they are just slow as drivers cant push...
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    Problem is the manus already in the series (and...

    Problem is the manus already in the series (and doing well) usualy want as few changes as possible, both to keep their advantage and to avoid extra costs. This in turn makes it harder for new ones to...
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    It's much more about the optics than the money...

    It's much more about the optics than the money itself. Following the dieselgate it's not like VW suddenly ran out of money, even with the massive compensations. But withdrawing as a sinner regretting...
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    Google translate says "Two large manufacturers...

    Google translate says "Two large manufacturers have been interested, but it is not yet more concrete in terms of their brands."

    "Interested" is quite loose term. Anyway from this definition I...
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    The two top Ford Mustang Mach E 1400 vids have...

    The two top Ford Mustang Mach E 1400 vids have 6.9 mil views in total:

    https://youtu.be/4-7jBLqSlzg

    What you posted is just an enlarged version of a road-side board and clearly doesn't have...
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG0Ka3yobJA&list=R...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG0Ka3yobJA&list=RDCMUCYmEE0OoZc9pP4Ai5ju-OiQ&index=2

    Most of the sound in that vid is from tires (not sliding). Anyway that is tarmac, on fast gravel you only hear...
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