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    As much as I love watching you twist trying to...

    As much as I love watching you twist trying to "get me" particularly with the whole worn out "guns are only for killing" bit, let me walk you through this s l o w l y so maybe you can keep up.


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    Really? You don't see the correlation? You...

    Really? You don't see the correlation? You don't see the irony in your statements? Really????

    You want to ban guns in the US even though there will be "a genuine problem regarding the ability...
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    Wow! My irony meter just pegged so hard that the...

    Wow! My irony meter just pegged so hard that the needle broke clean off.

    But by all means, please continue to regale us all with tales of how the US should outlaw guns.
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    NO no no. Perhaps I am not being expressly...

    NO no no. Perhaps I am not being expressly clear, although I thought I was. Proposing COMMON law to abridge rights guaranteed by the Constitution is what I have issue with. If she were proposing...
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    You completely misunderstand. Senator Feinstein...

    You completely misunderstand. Senator Feinstein is proposing a common law that abridges Constitutionally protected rights. That is what I have a problem with. If she were proposing an amendment, I...
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    No respectful disagreement is the foundation for...

    No respectful disagreement is the foundation for civil discourse.
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    Probably not. At least not until you apologize...

    Probably not. At least not until you apologize for insulting every gun owner as ignorant, fearful, paranoid, and not worthy of any respect. Oh I'm sorry not every gun owner, only American gun...
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    I don't believe anyone on this thread has stated...

    I don't believe anyone on this thread has stated that there is no problem. Many of us are merely stating the fact that adding more and more restrictive gun laws on law abiding citizens does NOTHING...
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    But clearly you do not understand how others...

    But clearly you do not understand how others interpret your comments.
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    Can you at least concede that your statement...

    Can you at least concede that your statement regarding the Swiss murders/gun laws/and culture can be seen to be anti-American? You basically have said that you can not trust Americans with that...
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    Then you favor an Amendment to be drafted and...

    Then you favor an Amendment to be drafted and voted on. Fine. I would/will oppose such a measure, but that is how our system is set up.

    When our Founders set up the Constitution and the Bill...
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    So your point is that since Feinstein is from a...

    So your point is that since Feinstein is from a larger state, and therefore has a larger voting pool, that she is somehow "better"??????
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    I try to be civil, but my patience wears thin. ...

    I try to be civil, but my patience wears thin. Your feelings were hurt when I say that you dislike Americans, and I am supposed to apologize for that, yet you continue to call me and others...
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    That is PRECISELY what the Constitution was...

    That is PRECISELY what the Constitution was written to do, hold back policy-making. Perhaps you would be better served speaking only of your own laws.
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    Once again you show your lack of understanding of...

    Once again you show your lack of understanding of US law. US Senators take an oath of office to uphold the US Constitution. The US Constitution clearly states via the 2nd Amendment that it's...
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    I think you should cease trying to wiggle out of...

    I think you should cease trying to wiggle out of your own words.

    Now you try to make some distinction about "American Gun Culture" as if that is somehow completely separate from the rest of...
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    A bit off topic (ok way off topic), but she's not...

    A bit off topic (ok way off topic), but she's not even close to the record for percentage of the vote. Richard Lugar won 87.4% of the vote in 2006 (not sure if that's a record, just a number I...
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    So at least you have come out and finally...

    So at least you have come out and finally admitted it. You just don't like Americans, or at least you somehow don't trust us because of our "culture". How is it that my culture, my beliefs, my...
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    Courage would be for her to stand up and say what...

    Courage would be for her to stand up and say what she really means, that she would like to repeal the 2nd Amendment altogether. At least that I would respect, wouldn't agree, but respect.
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    Then why can't you leave this subject alone? Why...

    Then why can't you leave this subject alone? Why can't you accept that not everyone will think like you? Why is your opinion the only "valid" one, the only one that has the "moral high ground", the...
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    And you have done nothing to dispel the...

    And you have done nothing to dispel the stereotype of the typical snobbish, self-centered, pseudo-intellectual European that looks down their nose at anything American.



    Do I really need to...
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    That's fine and dandy. Now tell me why you must...

    That's fine and dandy. Now tell me why you must continually spout your "morally superior" attitude as if we Americans must somehow see that as the right answer for us? Clearly we do not, as...
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    BDunnel, I have been away from this for a while. ...

    BDunnel, I have been away from this for a while. I come back and see nothing has changed. You keep going on about how the attitudes of Americans about guns are "alien" to you, and how you don't...
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    I am not dismissing your view. You think guns are...

    I am not dismissing your view. You think guns are dangerous, and you are scared of them. So I don't think you should have one. Simple, you live your life, I'll live mine. But for some reason you...
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    You are out of line. You and your ilk preach...

    You are out of line. You and your ilk preach about tolerance and understand for others, but you "dismiss my view out of hand". Go tell those people that saved their lives, and the lives of their...
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