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Perhaps that's because focus206 isn't using phrases like "reality check".

To answer your question directly: I think Hirvonen was a very capable driver and may have won several championships in a different era; my point is that he was really the only competition Loeb had,...

I respect your opinion, and respectfully disagree with you, which is fine, but it's hard to be reasonable with someone who appears unable to make the distinction between opinion and fact.

I rest my case.

That's the only conclusion that could be drawn based on the evidence as you've presented it. Your unwillingness or inability to entertain, let alone accept, an alternate opinion to your own makes it...

So when Loeb wins, there was competition. When anyone else wins, there was no competition. Got it.

The problem with 2 manufacturers is that, in general, it means less competition. You cannot seriously claim that from 2009-2012, with only Citroen and Ford, there was the same level of competition as...

In 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 there were only two manufacturer teams: Citroen and Ford, unless you are counting the stillborn Mini project.

There has been some fairly amusing hyperventilating on this thread over the last few days. My personal favourites: calling Kankkunen "crap", and stating that to compare Loeb with Makinen or Kankkunen...

After Gronholm retired, Loeb had no competition and that era was a really terrible time for the WRC. For me, Kankkunen is still the greatest due to 4 titles with 3 different manufacturers.