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    I think the reason Haas hired Grosjean was that,...

    I think the reason Haas hired Grosjean was that, since they were a new team, he at least was experienced in F1 and could provide feedback on car development. Probably came cheap too. Those days are...
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    Max's move was less than smart for two reasons....

    Max's move was less than smart for two reasons. First, as has been said earlier in this thread, he could have received a penalty for the contact. Second, and more important, any wheel to wheel...
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    Absolutely correct. He was going to make the pass...

    Absolutely correct. He was going to make the pass anyway and didn't need to bang wheels to do so.
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    No, the point is quite clear = "Dead Horse".

    No, the point is quite clear = "Dead Horse".
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    Given the late turn in and apex (from...

    Given the late turn in and apex (from Verstapenn's on board camera), I have to disagree. He failed to give reasonable racing room to Bottas. Late braking on an inside line is fine and will get you...
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    You have it right. Consistency from the stewards...

    You have it right. Consistency from the stewards is the most important part of their job. Otherwise no one ever knows what is OK and what isn't.
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    One small problem with that. This isn't 14. 16 or...

    One small problem with that. This isn't 14. 16 or 18.
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    just to be clear, I wouldn't have taken the win...

    just to be clear, I wouldn't have taken the win away, but a several grid place penalty for the next race would be in order. That contact could have easily resulted in one of the cars on it's roll...
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    Have you ever raced on track? A clean pass means...

    Have you ever raced on track? A clean pass means that you leave the over taken car just enough room to remain on the course. That did not happen here.
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    While Max had the racing line he is not entitled...

    While Max had the racing line he is not entitled to force other cars off the track. Particularly when they are side by side. His obligation in a clean pass is to leave just enough room for the other...
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    It's still nice to see some old faces around...

    It's still nice to see some old faces around again. Drop in when ever you have a chance.
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    I agree with seeing LeClerc as the winner. It...

    I agree with seeing LeClerc as the winner. It adds some good new blood at the top. Ferrari should now begin to consider Vettel as the number 2. It will also be interesting to see if Magnussen can...
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    With the projected heat tomorrow I suspect the...

    With the projected heat tomorrow I suspect the softs will give up sooner than normal.
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    Yes, and in the past there has also been...

    Yes, and in the past there has also been technical experimentation to help keep interest alive during the relatively boring one team domination years. Things like wings, sucker cars, 6 wheelers,...
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    In other words, everything is dumbed down and...

    In other words, everything is dumbed down and there is no longer the (sometimes futile) search for the "unfair advantage". Firstgear has a clear picture of what is part of the problem with motor...
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    I don't really agree with that. I've been slowly...

    I don't really agree with that. I've been slowly losing interest over the past several years and others have too as some of the comments in this thread prove.
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    Both?

    Both?
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    Much of what ails the top levels of racing can be...

    Much of what ails the top levels of racing can be summed up in one word - aero. While the introduction of wings brought new ideas, experimentation and innovation to racing, over time it has also...
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    steveaji13, I also agree. I've been involved in...

    steveaji13, I also agree. I've been involved in motorsport a long time and still am. But my interest now is more in the local racing. I haven't been to a F1 event in many years and have no plans for...
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    The pissing contest between the two of you is...

    The pissing contest between the two of you is getting a bit tiresome. You are as bad as TBK. Can't you just put up a post sans the personal insults?
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    Sticky: And my fall to the bottom of the standings is now...

    And my fall to the bottom of the standings is now well under way. For those still below me, it's time to put on your hard hats or do some fancy dodging.
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    Welcome, lots of opinions here - some on point,...

    Welcome, lots of opinions here - some on point, some not so much (like mine).
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    That's one of the things that makes being a...

    That's one of the things that makes being a marshal "interesting". Three possible causes for them being there at that moment: 1) Bad instructions from Race Control; 2) Bad instructions from the...
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    My issues are the commentary. The actual TV...

    My issues are the commentary. The actual TV product is better. As much as I loved the Speed coverage (and miss the talking heads) the actual picture product is better. Did you see Indy? Or should I...
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    The only thing effective at Monaco is being in...

    The only thing effective at Monaco is being in front.
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