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    I worked the Speedway that month in an Officials...

    I worked the Speedway that month in an Officials roll. It was a lot tougher than that. The big loss was John Paul Jr.

    These older cars would not hold their speeds in continual laps. If Paul had...
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    How about this? "calling you pompous wouldn't...

    How about this?

    "calling you pompous wouldn't be an insult then, right?"

    It is amazing a basic fact not known by one but known by everyone else and pointing it out is an insult but the other...
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    Problem was in the early 1980s there was attempts...

    Problem was in the early 1980s there was attempts to get old stuff to run with chewing gum and spit. So yes, there was a spread but the 1983-1984-1985 started to kill off those efforts.
    Paltry...
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    Not an insult but a FACT. It appears you didn't...

    Not an insult but a FACT. It appears you didn't know this. I can't help you with that.
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    Begging? Never been done. In 1983, WHERE...

    Begging? Never been done.



    In 1983, WHERE ELSE COULD YOU RACE YOUR INDY TYPE CAR?
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    Bet it won't be next weekend. No this is getting...

    Bet it won't be next weekend. No this is getting real bad and with possible Bank failures we are looking at about 1932.
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    So entries are more important and cars that can...

    So entries are more important and cars that can challenge to win. 1000 people is better even though the place holds 250.



    Yup and how many of those cars showed up on the CART schedule?
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    Maybe do some research on this as Ford and...

    Maybe do some research on this as Ford and Studebaker made multi car efforts. You did bring up one off efforts to win the 500. That was the only time. This was a full factory effort. Most others were...
  9. Entry for the Bobby Ball 200 at PIR 11/17/1968 1...

    Entry for the Bobby Ball 200 at PIR 11/17/1968
    1 A.J. Foyt Jr. Sheraton-Thompson 1968 Coyote-Turbo/Ford
    2 Mario Andretti ONA #64 1967 Hawk II-Turbo/Offy
    3 Bobby Unser Rislone 1968...
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    If you had a season sponsor you had to pay 20% of...

    If you had a season sponsor you had to pay 20% of that money to CART for race promotions.

    If you had a race to race sponsor deal you had to pay NOTHING to CART for race promotions.

    Most of...
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    Good to get back on topic.

    Good to get back on topic.
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    So Alsup, Ferguson, Gehlhausen, Boom-Boom Cannon...

    So Alsup, Ferguson, Gehlhausen, Boom-Boom Cannon and Gary B were strong rides?
    Alsup in a 1983 Argo-T/Cosworth was a sled.
    Ferguson in 1981 March T/Cosworth was strong in 1981 not in 1983 thanks to...
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    $1,000 for the whole month. There were ghost...

    $1,000 for the whole month. There were ghost entries. In this case just a big difference to what was strong 3 years prior to what was good to go now.
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    $1,000 for the whole month. There were ghost...

    $1,000 for the whole month. There were ghost entries. In this case just a big difference to what was strong 3 years prior to what was good to go now.
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    One car got bumped. The rest could not make 180 ...

    One car got bumped. The rest could not make 180

    Only John Mahler was the only other car to qualify. DNS TOO SLOW means qualified and got bumped.

    "I thought my sign said 200." said Mahler....
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    It is nice you found a picture of a car 10 laps...

    It is nice you found a picture of a car 10 laps down.... :D
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    Ten fans wearing Rubeware in a Bar in a town were...

    Ten fans wearing Rubeware in a Bar in a town were 7 Indy car drivers came from and only 1 knows about CART and were two of the seven drivers were racing. How REAL do you want it?

    Done yammmering...
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    Yes and most shows were busts like Las Vegas and...

    Yes and most shows were busts like Las Vegas and such but no one saved the promoter, they just moved on. When they ran out of promoters they had to prop them up and this caused money to fly away.
    ...
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    When they went away from tracks with history and...

    When they went away from tracks with history and went to the Meadowlands was because they wanted to go into the NYC market. The show lost fist fulls of money and CART when it was done moved on.
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    They--Means Today's consumer. have never...

    They--Means Today's consumer.
    have never seen---Not viewed or haven't seen
    a car---- Since we are talking about OPEN WHEEL racing and the things driven in Open Wheel racing are cars one must expect...
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    He maybe talking about 1994 or later when reality...

    He maybe talking about 1994 or later when reality should have set in when the egos got really too big on their 6th brithday. From that point on they listen to nobody except themselves.

    This the...
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    It was English but I guess I missed something.

    It was English but I guess I missed something.
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    I have talked to today's consumer and they can't...

    I have talked to today's consumer and they can't relate to this product, tomorrow, today or yesterday. They have never seen a car in a driveway or on the highway.

    The important thing to realize...
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    Really, 65% of those sponsorship dollars went to...

    Really, 65% of those sponsorship dollars went to a race they didn't sanction. When given the chance they turned their back on it.

    So what did it get them and those fans? Marco Greco for Rick...
  25. Drivers Points after Hanford: 1. Mario Andretti...

    Drivers Points after Hanford:
    1. Mario Andretti 3888**** 149.54 points per race.
    2. Bobby Unser 3810***** -78 146.54 points per race
    3. Al Unser 2474*****
    4. Lloyd Ruby 2229**
    5. Billy...
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