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Proto has no Future and it is a big mistake to let these cars compete.

First of all to close to R5. So R5 drivers are not happy about it and will maybe pass dutch events.

Second. Evo s are...

R4 Kit

It is the wrong way for new 4wd cars. To expensive i am afraid.

We need 4wd group N cars back!

Factory cars with some adjustments to make them ready for Rallying. This must be done...

They can bin the R4 kit to expensive it s no replacement for Group N prices.

In Holland we are preparing an Production class. That means cars which you can buy at every dealer new or second hand.

max 2.0 turbo or 3.5 atmo fwd or RWD. Every car gets special electronic case...

Nice but price of an r4 will go to 180.000euro easy!

Yep the price is to close to an R5 car. Maybe running costs are lower but rallycar buyers that can spend 200k in regional rally s you can t find manny.

R4 kit PDF

http://www.akis.is/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/ORECA_Plaquette_R4_EN.pdf

Fia makes it to expensive.

The best way is to go austria rally masters m1 class.

Make street cars into rally cars.

If you grap a street fiesta 1.6 fwd with registration plates and build into a R4 and make it 4wd. The car has no official approval for the road anymore. Maybe in other country s it s more easy to get...

proberly the price of a second hand R5 yes.

But then how does the R4 car get homologated.

No way you can get a licence plate on a car which has standard fwd and turned into a 4wd car. How is...

Its 108.000 euro ex tax for the kit.

Above that

You need do buy an orginal street car wealding a cage into it and make new mounting poiints for subframe and the car needs a tunnel to fit shaft...

Agreed!

105k ex taxes ready car i would be interested.

https://www.fia.com/file/36346/download?token=QX2gJEq4

Fia says in the pdf that max costs of the kit is 105.000 euro ex taxes.

I quess this without car.

You need a car, wide body kit, roll cage, spot welding, safety equipment etc.

This will...

Good news.

Let s wait and see how it s priced.

When do we see the first fia homologated cars with the new approved r4 kit?

Who is making them?

If you want a new 4wd car you need to digg deep into your pockets for an r5. 200k plus and add some maintenance costs.

4wd rally has never been cheaper:)

New Focus RS could also be nice base for a group N rallycar.

I buy that for my rally needs!

WRC of today are very very tiny cars. In my opinion they are to small. But the new STI is to big. The 2000 version of the 2 door impreza rally car is for me the perfect size for a rally car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-oDRuLnJA


2015 brings a new sti group N

The car is much to big. They should bring such car in much smaller package then i would be interested.

The rally sport really needs a 4wd car which can be bought and maintained for normal budgets. The R5 is the starting class for 4wd nowadays. Way to expensive to start with 4wd rallying. Replacement...