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    Question how much of the apparent progress was...

    Question how much of the apparent progress was due to Toyota getting slower with smaller wing. Compared to Citroen and especially Evans in Ford they didn't seem much faster. (Evans was the fastest...
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    It also says that Citroen will continue paying...

    It also says that Citroen will continue paying Lappi's salary at MSport. In that case it's quite easy to choose him for MSport considering their business model.

    So the remaining questions would...
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    Thing is if you take Lappi's results and form...

    Thing is if you take Lappi's results and form from 2017 as a rule it would place him as last WRC this year. Lappi had great start with 4th in Italy and then winning Finland after Latvala's ECU issues...
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    Greensmith is paying (and is not without any...

    Greensmith is paying (and is not without any talent) and Msport is a business, thats the reality and while we might not like it we can't really change it. This year it was shown clearly by Msport...
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    If Toyota does not get anyone else than Ogier,...

    If Toyota does not get anyone else than Ogier, Evans and Rovanpera and if MSport only aims for one drvier besides Suninen and Greensmith it's really the worst case scenario for driver seats.

    In...
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    In mid 2018 when he was hired Lappi was clearly...

    In mid 2018 when he was hired Lappi was clearly the most promising new driver in WRC.
    It's just that 2019 has been a bit of a disaster for him. Especially the start.
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    I don't really fear for Toyota. I do fear for...

    I don't really fear for Toyota. I do fear for Rovanpera. The overhype might not be good for him.

    This year everyone was expecting him to easily collect WRC2pro. then he crashed in all 3 first...
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    That's where we disagree. Kalle at this point...

    That's where we disagree. Kalle at this point should learn the car and rallies in a fast car, not be expected to finish and get points. So you are definitely not getting the best out of him. His...
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    Very simplified maths: Manu points from Tanak...

    Very simplified maths:

    Manu points from Tanak and Neuville this year: 219+179= 398 (18 more than Hyundai won the championship using 3 cars with)
    Manu points from Ogier and Evans: 190+94= 284
    ...
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    The overall point result that Lappi "achieved" is...

    The overall point result that Lappi "achieved" is hard to beat, especially since there will be only 6 manu point scoring cars, so just finishing brings 8 manu points.

    Thing is that Ogier + Evans +...
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    We don't know it but maybe he does. Ogier,...

    We don't know it but maybe he does.

    Ogier, Evans and Rovanpera is not a full team in my eyes as it is not the best possible team for manu champ.

    There are 3 options:
    -Toyota think it's good...
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    Wonder why Lappi doesn't consider Toyota an...

    Wonder why Lappi doesn't consider Toyota an option. Only because of how they parted?
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    There will be some kind of agreement with money...

    There will be some kind of agreement with money being transferred in one or another direction, just like with Meeke. It's very unlikely much of it gets to the public. Unless Ogier's wife spills it...
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    I did compare, typically more than 0.2 s/km from...

    I did compare, typically more than 0.2 s/km from 2018 to 2019, from 2017 to 2019 it's from 0.5 s/km upwards.

    Being 0.5 s/km slower would mean you finish around 7th place on most rallies this year.
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    The last part just perfectly contradicted the PR...

    The last part just perfectly contradicted the PR explanation that it's all because of Ogier. If they were commited for 2021 and new rules from 2022 Neuville would have been a real option.
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    Polo 2017 would be hopelessly outdated today. ...

    Polo 2017 would be hopelessly outdated today.

    I do believe if it drove in 2017 it would have been one of the fastest if not the fastest car on most rallies, however the pace of development has...
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    Good business doesn't necessarily mean good rally...

    Good business doesn't necessarily mean good rally results.
    Running a paying driver even if he is slower can be a better business than a faster but more expensive driver. Greensmith doing the...
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    The team dynamic between Ogier and Tommi+Mia will...

    The team dynamic between Ogier and Tommi+Mia will certainly be very interesting to follow next year.
  19. Thread: Citroen WRT

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    Agree, even if he wins next he won't be loved in...

    Agree, even if he wins next he won't be loved in France.

    In reality the main reasons in the long term are
    - half hearted commitment since at least 2016
    - Matton for development and choice of...
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    This is the current rumor situation yes. For...

    This is the current rumor situation yes.

    For me this is also somewhat the worst case team setup.

    Toyota could definitely have one more experienced driver and use Kalle as 4th car and they...
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    Already starting to frame it as "having no...

    Already starting to frame it as "having no choice" but to leave cause Ogier left them....

    Also says that Lappi will very quickly be announced at MSport, that's somewhat surprising, both since he...
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    1. Wrong. Sure technically you could argue it is...

    1. Wrong. Sure technically you could argue it is correct, but not in the way I meant it. Only Greensmith fits the category. Gronholm isn't "new" and the others are really gentlemen drivers at this...
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    After Argentina there were plenty.

    After Argentina there were plenty.
  24. Thread: WRC future

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    I wrote that in post #43. With 50% of all new...

    I wrote that in post #43. With 50% of all new cars sold being electric for last 3 months the total amount is still only 10% .. and the infrastructure issues mentioned are developing and getting...
  25. Thread: WRC future

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    @Mirek When you write simple arguments like...

    @Mirek

    When you write simple arguments like "totally unprepared" you get simple answers. I have written long posts explaining how none of these issues is a game stopper before so I don't see the...
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