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Hello,
in the past I have visited Germany, Turkey and Spain for WRC events. For 2023, I am hoping to watch another European WRC rally (except Acropolis Rally obviously) and I am wondering what is the most inexpensive option.
Croatia? Or Estonia if they reconsider the prices? Portugal?
Please note that I am not used to pay for access to SS since Greece, Turkey, Spain and Germany rallies (well, I paid to watch from the grandstands) were free to watch.
Thank you!
Well it's not Finland.
and most probably not Sweden because sleeping outside for free isn't possible...
not overseas because traveling is expensive.
I will stay in a hotel, not interested to sleep outside.
Let's find out!
1. Rallye Monte-Carlo - No, expensive country, snow&ice, sleeping outside for free impossible
2. Rally Sweden - No, snow&ice, sleeping outside for free impossible
3. Croatia Rally - maybe?
4. Vodafone Rally de Portugal
5. Rally Italia Sardegna
6. Safari Rally Kenya - No, too far away
7. Rally Estonia - No, many forum members said that this rally has become too expensive
8. Secto Automotive Rally Finland - No, because pantealex says so ;)
9. Ypres Rally Belgium
10. EKO Acropolis Rally Greece
11. Repco Rally New Zealand - No, too far away
12. RallyRACC - Catalunya Rally de España
13. FORUM8 Rally Japan - No, too far away
It seems Croatia?
Toss up between Croatia and Sardegna. First can be reached by car while the second is not far away from the sea.
I assume Croatia is the obvious winner.
Life is cheaper than Sardegna and I hope that plane tickets will be not expensive if I book early.
IMO don't choose a rally by convincing yourself it'll be the cheapest on the calendar, go to the one you want to see most and do it cost-efficiently to get the most value for money. You've done tarmac and heavy gravel - how about Monte or Finland and see cars at 150kph on ice or flying around corners?
Because, if a rally pass is a dealbreaker on top of hotels, fuel, car hire, food, tolls, flights, covid testing, double-digit inflation, travel disruption ... are you totally sure you want to go anywhere?
Sardegna def not cheap. Plane tickets + rental prices in italy. And eating/drinking is not cheap also.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Couple of years ago it was 300e for tickets and 500€ for car. Apartment across a service park was 800€ for a week. Plus eating ang gas.
But nevertheless i will go again next year. Good rally to spectate in beginning of summer.
Mmm, not really, you can get much cheaper prices at anything than maybe the car rental and gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
there are 100€ flights from all over Europe, and a bnb room is about 30/50€ a night in center Alghero!
everything is different price wise when you go/come from EstoniaQuote:
Originally Posted by wyler
Definitely for the airplane, not so for a hotel room! : )Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
sleeping outside for free in RallyMonte Carlo is very common....did it since 20 years now and still alive!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I spectated Rally Belgium last year. Paid for stage access (which was close to 100 euro) on Friday and Saturday, but slept in my car (I drove there myself). Parked in a quiet and abandoned place on the outskirts of the city and slept in the trunk. I think I spent more money on stageside beer and hotdogs than on anything else.
Regarding eating/drinking in Sardegna - you can do it the cheap way (just like we did) and buy your food from supermarket and cook it yourself. We had appartment from thursday (so we missed shakedown) till monday and it cost us about 250 EUR. The plane tickets differ from where you are flying. We are Czechs, but we flew from Katowice (Poland), because of the price. So probably the most expensive thing is the car + gas, but if you are going to split that between few people, then it shouldn't be a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
I’ve slept in my car for the past 6 Monte, even by -15 degrees :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
A quick reply of my costs so far this year
Rally Portugal
Car rent 143eu (3 days centuaro)
Hostel 25 eu per night
Ryanair to Porto
Safari Kenya
550 Amsterdam- Nairobi return
150 3d/2n rally tour, bazenga wild safaris (Facebook) camping, food and transport
22 per night accom Nairobi embassy hotel
50 - visa
Finland - next week
80eu/night apartment Muurame Thurs-sun, 50 for other days
24eu car per day + .27 per km
90eu for rally pass?
Can camp in forest ...
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If anyone wants advice for the Safari, I’m happy to help and have some contacts in the area ;)
I assume sleeping outside for free impossible?Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
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Originally Posted by WRC1
You guys mean a camper?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredouye
Not completely impossible but not recommended..need to watch yourself after dark in Kenya. Is plenty of cheap campsites along south side of lake naivasha (fish eagle, fisherman's, carnelly) and also Punda Milias on north side highly recommended. All about $8 a night campingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
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no! normal Road car (Skoda Octavia...) 2 people can perfectly sleep and NO it isn´t that cold during th nights....and if...just switch on the car for 10min and everything is fine ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Let's talk about it! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
Couple of nights in a tent in the snow with -10, let me decide for airb&b ever after!
(couple of years in a renault megane too!)
ps: + police shaking the tent at 5 a.m to tell we need to leave at 7...
I will always remember spectating in Norway 2009 and it was about -25C during the day, then got talking to a German guy next to us who’d driven up and was sleeping in his car overnight :eek:
I am a committed car camper when I have to (which is most of the time, given my (lack of) budget), but that might just be too much hardcore for me :crazy:
I’ve camped in Finland, Acropolis and Monza and all easily doable.
Booking ahead seems to be the key thing to get the best prices.
Yes that’s pretty much what I’d recommend, they have decent food available too. The first time I visited Kenya we stayed in a Banda at Fisherman’s Camp which was cheap and cheerful (if you ignore the mossies :crazy: ) I’ve also flown to Kenya for something like £270 previously so it can be done fairly cheaply! The main thing to watch out for is the (terrible) traffic on South Lake road on Friday/Saturday evenings, I’d even recommend going the long way around the lake to avoid it. But if you can miss visiting service then you should be ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwigazza
Of course it’s hard to avoid the cost but even one day visiting a Safari park before/after the event - my favourite place on the planet is Nakuru which isn’t too far away and think it is $80 for a day pass. I’d sell a kidney to visit if I could! Mega place.
And of course there are more expensive accommodation/tourist packages available ;) Just bear in mind late June is just about the start of the high season over there.