Should be interesting week leading up with Silly Season fully about to come to a conclusion and memories about how Monza last year gave us Gasly, Sainz and Stroll on the podium.
With the Bottas announcement, everything else should start rolling out.
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Should be interesting week leading up with Silly Season fully about to come to a conclusion and memories about how Monza last year gave us Gasly, Sainz and Stroll on the podium.
With the Bottas announcement, everything else should start rolling out.
Qualifying on Friday
Spring Qualifying on Saturday
There is interesting drama going on with Maze-spin and Schumacher. It seems to be about to come head.
Mazepin called Schumacher "cheeky" - is that a British insult?Quote:
Rookie teammates Nikita Mazepin and Mick Schumacher spent Saturday evening firing verbal shots at each other through the media after a contentious incident in qualifying for the Dutch Grand Prix.
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"At least it's consistent and you know where you stand. What I don't like is when people are cheeky fighting for P19. I think it just shows their true nature."
I'm just waiting for one of these sprints to end up in major carnage and screw some teams up. And even when they don't it's just still a strange way to do things if you ask me. But at least we don't have sprinklers.... yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by F1nKS
Yeah. There should be more points for it than what they are getting due to the risk involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Perez drive was screwed (by his own making) in the GB grand prix. Had a decent qualifying (5th), but made a unforced error which caused a eventual DNF and so he started at the back for the grid and just couldn't do anything.
Mercedes are destroying Red Bull in qualifying. Only Mclaren competitive so far against Mercedes.
Out in Q1
16. Latifi
17. Tsunoda
18. Schumacher
19. Kubica
20. Mazepin
Bottas is taking a new engine this weekend and will take penalties for the race.
Out in Q2
11. Vet
12. Stroll
13. Alonso
14. Ocon
15. Russell
Q3 - first run
1. Hamilton
2. Verstappen
3. Norris
4. Riciardo
5. Bottas
6. Gasly
7. Leclerc
8. Sainz
9. Perez
10. Giovinazzi
Finals
1. Bottas
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen
4. Norris
5. Ricardo
6. Gasly
7. Sainz
8. Leclerc
9. Perez
10. Gio
I wonder if Mercedes will reconsider now with Bottas on pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1nKS
FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2021 - PRACTICE 1
10 12 Sep 2021 Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ractice-1.html
FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2021 - QUALIFYING
10 12 Sep 2021 Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ualifying.html
What the teams said – Qualifying in Italy
Becky Hart
10 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...MuoqcZ9sS.html
Bottas takes P1 in qualifying, but is set to start Sunday’s Italian GP from last after changing power unit
10 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...2UJjVruWO.html
Verstappen says it would be ‘unrealistic’ to have hoped for more than P3 in Monza qualifying
10 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...qMgbYuKiI.html
Gasly proud of AlphaTauri after navigating ‘cat and mouse’ quali to take P6 for F1 Sprint
10 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...IlDyl60Dn.html
This could end up interesting tomorrow for the Sprint Race. With Bottas up front, do they risk trying to let Lewis by without Max slipping through? And if they don't most likely at some point Valterri will fade, possibly leaving Lewis in the center fighting off Max.
Of all the times for Bottas to beat Lewis, this really wasn't the best for the team.
Either way, it looks like Merc has the pace advantage at the temple of speed. Lewis should run away with the win unless something dicey happens of race pace is a lot different than we are expecting. Strong run by the Mclarens, surprised they slipped in Q3. It could still shake up some though, as the track was ramping up so fast and the tow coming into play so much that the race could really spread them out, or see plenty of trains with DRS.
They need to do something about the pit exits and outlaps NOW before it ends in shambles. Probably not an easy thing to fix, but they have to do it before we see major carnage.
Too late, the deal is done!Quote:
Originally Posted by F1nKS
It is going to be an interesting start to the sprint race. With Hamilton and Verstappen attacking Bottas and both Mclarens attacking Verstappen and possibly Hamilton. The Mclarens are quick at this race, hence Verstappen would be looking over his shoulder on that long straight to the first corner where the Mclaren is quicker.
I think a Mclaren is going to end up in the top three coming out of turn one. This is one race where Bottas need to keep on the pace of both Hamilton and Verstappen and not fade backwards in race time.
What a snore fest... Ah well. At least tomorrow should be a bit more interesting with Lewis having to go full attack.
Glad to see McLarens aggressive softs strategy paying off.
The Sprint idea sounded good.. but has failed to live up to expectations, they should probably just can it.
No .Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
It sounded stupid , and lived up the expectations .
Only thing interesting about this race was how fast and far Hamilton dropped.
Too bad about Gasly, he actually had good start and in the end just got unlucky.
From the conspiracy corner comes the thought that , because Merc was supposed to be fast here(as Bottas was) , an uncharacteristic bad start from Lewis in the stupid sprint makes room for more entertainment than a romp into the distance .Quote:
Originally Posted by F1nKS
That comes after the rare event when the towed car didn't go faster than the towing car in the qually on Friday .
FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2021 - PRACTICE 2
10 12 Sep 2021 Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ractice-2.html
FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRAN PREMIO D’ITALIA 2021 - SPRINT
10 12 Sep 2021 Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....g-results.html
HIGHLIGHTS: Missed the F1 Sprint at Monza? Catch all the action right here
11 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...wmrj7mzWD.html
Verstappen still wary of Mercedes threat despite ‘crucial’ Sprint result at Monza
11 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...yzHjpwntU.html
Ricciardo promises 'full attack' in Italian Grand Prix as he clinches front-row start at Monza
11 September 2021
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...vMiDjOT7s.html
Hamilton messed up big time. This is how championships are lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1nKS
Based on each drivers performance to date this season Verstappen deserves to be champion this year. Hamilton had the race win if he hadn't bottled it today. His own fault, one of way too many mistakes he has made this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrodaze
To be honest, Mercedes have been under-performing since pre-season testing and regulations changing. Hamilton's moves this season are often of a more desperate driver in a slower car. I am reminded of Vettel in a Ferrari.
Overall, the random sprint race and penalties for mechanical failures are not a good idea for a fair sport. Neither is the points system.
It looks like Hamilton has his work cut out for him tomorrow unless someone has a bad start. Once in the dirty air, he really didn't even make a challenge on the McLarens, and they were losing ground to Max and Valterri. Out in front, Bottas didn't seem to have any issues, and I was shocked that Max seemed to be able to stay with him. I'm not really sure if either of them pushed it much though, as they traded some fast laps but there was little to gain in really pushing it.
Sucks for Gasly. Though it was his own mistake, I think he would have finished getting past Hamilton. I'm surprised he didn't back off, but at that point nobody could really do a damage assessment on the wing, and with the short sprint, he wasn't going to recover from a replacement anyway.
If the Merc engine problems continue and Lewis has to take penalties, Max might be out of that potential problem zone as far as points go.
Lewis has lost most of his positions this year on starts, and Max has had quite a few really good holeshots as well. The only hope for the race is that Merc has good long term race pace, and can find the gaps to use it. Valterri might have a hard day just to work up to the points.
Well…crazy max has done it again.
Pure madness. Squeezed Hamilton on lap one and then oddly claims that hamilron sidnt leave him space even though he mounted the curb and pretty much turned into Hamilton. 100% Mad max fault.
Of course stupid Brundle is trying to play neutral talking about a race incident. Laughable. If it was anyone but max he would be all over them. Wtf is he talking about. Laughable commentary.
Agreed plus Max was far less alongside Lewis there than Lewis was on Max at Copse in Silverstone. If Max doesn't get a penalty for that then it makes a joke of F1. I fully expect no penalty for him such is the idiocy of F1 stewards. Brundle is a moron and has no business commentating anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
SkyF1 is really pissing me off. Lol “they took each other off” Nope! Mad Max took out Hamilton. End of story! Didnt even check on Hamilton. Class act! Smh
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Norris needs to pipe down. He isn’t faster than Ricciardo at all.
Also RBR continue their stupidity by not telling Perez to give back the spot. And Perez should have known better
Ah, i see the usual Hamilton fanboys have arrived.
Hard to tell who's at fault here, neither of them has done anything to avoid the accident. I would put the blame more towards hamilton because he didn't leave enough space and pushed max off.
Well I guess Sprint Qualifying was successful. This race would never have had this much drama had the pole order not been shaken up by the spring qualifying.
Max was 3/4 of the way alongside and Lewis simply didn't leave enough space.. what was Max supposed to do? How you guys above can still blame Max is pretty hilarious.
Ah well... at least Lewis didn't go on and win it this time and Max still gained some net points and extended his championship lead this time.
If Perez had given the spot back, Bottas would have also passed at the same time. If Bottas had gotten past then, he would have had a chance to win the race. So RBR was minimizing how much the Mercedes points gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Ricciardo better not forget to do the "shoey"
Max gave Hamilton no room on the first lap, Hamilton gave Max the same treatment in return, except Hamilton actually gave Max slightly more room. Max should have gone over the chicane like Lewis did.
great day for Mclaren. Congrats Danny and Lando.
Great drive back from Bottas
Russel finishes p9 solid.
double points for Alpine again
and very good double points for Ferrari.
I'm out because I know the predictable nonsensical arguments that are going to ensue trying to defend the buffonery of Mad Max .
We shall see what the stewards are going to say. But the lunacy of SkyF1 commentary just adds to my frustration.
Once again, really happy for Mclaren. It has been a long journey back and what a result!
yup. Just like every other car did. All except max. It is amazing how the guy forgets what he did on lap 1 and then has the audacity to complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
He was behind, and knew 100% he wasn't going to make that pass, but stuck his nose in anyway in typical mad max fashion, thinking the other driver would just move out of the way.
mind you trying to make the pass on the kerbs as well. it was a mazepin worthy move.
Nothing about the move was a racing incident.
I will also in fairness issue slight blame to the useless Mercedes pit stop crew who continue to be shambolic on pit stops. a 4:2sec stop is unacceptable and this is a typical occurrence in the past 2 seasons.
Hamilton should have come out P2 and chasing Ricciardo down.
But At the end of the day, mad max takes the cake.
And the dude didn't even bother to check on hamilton.
Maniac.
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Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Perhaps.. but that still doesn't make Lewis not at fault for this one.
He should. But he didn't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
And if he didn't, lewis had to give him space, which he didn't.
I call it a racing incident. Both could have easily avoided it, but both chose not to give in.
You blamed Hamilton for Silverstone and Hamilton was far more alongside Max in Silverstone than Max was alongside Lewis today. If this was a racing incident so was Silverstone.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi