"Eastern Europe" is such a complex definition that I wouldn't blame anyone for counting Poland or Czech Republic in. It's probably used just as often to merge certain countries into each other than it is for geographical definition.
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"Eastern Europe" is such a complex definition that I wouldn't blame anyone for counting Poland or Czech Republic in. It's probably used just as often to merge certain countries into each other than it is for geographical definition.
I thought there had been a decent amount of people in Turkey but after watching the onboards there can't have been more than 2-500 people pr stage apart from city and start of powerstage. That's too little for a country that already had a WRC fanbase from previous years.
Yes but merged on which base? Central European countries have different alphabet, different religions and different culture than Russia, Ukraine, Belarus etc. and the history is not much connected (well, the Polish is - with never ending wars with with their eastern neighbours). We were part of the Warshaw pact for fifty years but that's nearly all out of the last thousand years or so. Now we are all in EU so by the same logic we shall be called Western Europe which is obviously also a nonsense.
Mirek,dont listen what said Allez and AL as something strange.Same thinking for what is East/West Europe is for Greeks too.
As AL said its because the iron curtain countries,all these countries where ''east'' for us.Not correct gegraphically,but its like that at peoples thinking,not all people,but at least for these had lived at these times.
Well I'm Italian as well but I don't share that view, I guess because I've always looked at the continent with a geographical eye. Hell, some people think Europe ends at the Russian border instead of the Ural Mountains.
But yes, many people here see Italy as South or even West Europe, then if you mention Slovenia they say it's East Europe. Then you make them notice that with that view there would be no Central Europe and that East Europe would be two/three times as big as Western Europe.
I guess the "political (outdated) map" is still influencial, but we have to consider that countries are shaped in many different ways so you cannot always place one in a definite region. For example, I've always thought of Poland as Central-East Europe, because it's quite a "large" country.
And I consider a good part of Italy as part as the Mittle Europa, also because of its history... if you look at the Mitropa Rally Cup, they have always multiple rounds in Italy, mainly in North-East but also more South in Casentino.
Well, I also apologise for the OT :D
That's the same as the definition in the UK. Czech Republic is described as Eastern Europe along with Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Bulgaria. Austria is 100% Western European though....:eek:
They clearly reference former politics rather than geography.
(UK is a pretty fucked up country though)
I was in Turkey on September. On the Marmaris city stage there were MYRIADS of people. Endless crowd. But in the mountains I saw mostly European fans. In Cicekli we were almost alone. Some policemen in the entrance of the stage were impressed to see us and asked “Who sent you here”?? In Ula I saw mostly Europeans drinking beers and in Datca some Finnish and Estonian people. Service park was so empty the first days you could have discussion with the drivers.
I want Rally Turkey to be in the calendar but Turkish fans need to go to the mountains.