http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64770
The mind boggles :crazy:Quote:
Former Ferrari mechanic Nigel Stepney says he never expected the information he gave to McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan to be used by the team to gain an advantage.
And to think some people thought it was unacceptable for Jean Todt to say that Stepney 'lost his mind'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
You made my day! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
I think Stepney would make a fine partner to a certain B Spears right now...... ;)
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Originally Posted by tamburello
As an "outsider" my opinion may not have much merit but ...Quote:
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By Jonathan Noble ------------- Monday, January 21st 2008, 10:32 GMT
Former Ferrari mechanic Nigel Stepney says he never expected the information he gave to McLaren chief designer Mike Coughlan to be used by the team to gain an advantage .....
I have to ask what did Stepney think the information would be used for ?
Could he be so foolish as to think that McLaren wouldn't use vital information ?
I postulated that Stepney was using the plans for credibility when asking Coughlan to join him in leaving for Honda in the beginning of this mess .
He was a fool to try this on , and a fool for thinking it wouldn't be used , but it might just be that this was the original plan .
When Honda's Fry didn't bite , they went to plan B , which involved current race strategy and mysterious white powder .
[quote="Bagwan"]I postulated that Stepney was using the plans for credibility when asking Coughlan to join him in leaving for Honda in the beginning of this mess .
;) My thoughts too !!!
That's about the only likely scenario possible... without concluding they were simply Idiots.
Seems as though... Stepney & Coughan were plotting together... hoping to join Honda's opperation.
Good thing he wasn't giving nuclear secrets to Iran with the idea that they would never be used!!!
i am sure he could have got a job at any other team with out the technical dossier after bing part of that Dreamteam.
http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...KVMoc4FkKMy_4AQuote:
Nigel Stepney denies responsibility for McLaren punishment in spy scandal
It seems to me that he's a bit of an idiot, and in light of those two fools plotting together, makes me believe that no one team should have been punished for this debacle.
Fact is that people changes teams all the time, from drivers to cooks, and most of them do not start a big scandal when dealing with another team. So I would have to conclude that Stepney is indeed an idiot :mark:
But how smart is the team that illegally uses the data from an "idiot?"Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64789
"Don't get me wrong, Formula One I've worked in for many years. I've enjoyed it, I've made a living out of it, it's been a very good experience in life, but I think I prefer to go into a sort of a grass roots racing again."
Hmm, like anyone in F1 was going to touch him with a barge-pole after Spygate anyway?
wouldn't matter if they did, he's been banned from working in F1 for lfe
Not yet he hasn't. The FIA hearing inviting Stepney to explain why he shouldn't face a 'lengthy ban' has not taken place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
More pressingly, he will be in an Italian courtroom in the next 12 months.
i did wonder, but there is a throwaway line in the middle of the ITV-F1 report on the same that says he has been, which now appears to have been changed.
i'll be interested to see if anything comes out of the case, i still feel that there is plenty more we don't know about what happened which could be quite juicy, although i doubt anything that will salvage any of the damaged reputations to date
This guy, judging by his own comments, has lost his mind.
The way I see it is that he passed technical data in order to gain money (by selling the secrets document or by achieving a better job at another team).
"I think, at the end of this year or at the end of 2007, I was looking to get out of Ferrari anyway; whether it was going to be in Formula One I wasn't quite sure. I think Formula One was going away from a direction I really wanted to go."
Where?? to being honest and transparent
Yikes.... this whole thing is such a mess....
And, I must agree with the words posted here. Did he really think any engineer would take specs from a rival car and just use to jump up and down and scream - "Mommmy, Mommy, looky what Ferrari is doing!!!"???
I would not want to be in a italian court room on charges that I ****ed Ferrari!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
I suppose they're quite smart if they don't get caught lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
However it seems that there were 3 people in this chain that weren't mentally 100% last year, and they were the ones that were implicated in it the most.
Stepney - Coughlan - Alonso
I mean Fernando can be added to the list for his attempted bribery of Ron Dennis.
Ferrari can feel betrayed and angry and they have been unfairly treated by their own employee.
Maybe the only consolation is the 'help' they receive from the F.I.A.
But yet apparently Stepney was the one that brought the Ferrai illegal floor to the FIA and Rons attention thus whistle blowing on his own team,
Then suddenly he's getting the boot from Ferrari, and being discredited.
I'm onclined not to believe the propaganda from Ferrari just yet. They have been clearly trying to destroy Stepneys character prior to any court hearing. Guilty or not, Ferrari aren't playing by the rules much are they?
Further more to believe that information has only gone one way in this whole situation is daft. Ofcourse Ferrari were aware of some of the MErcs details...Rerrari were just better at using it discretely.
Im not anti Ferrari, but this past year they tested my understanding of them and there ways with the FIA. They have also said an awful lot about Stepney in public, which until the court case happens, shouldn't happen, also no italian court is going to rule against Ferrari are they, so how fair will his court hearing be?????
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61240Quote:
Originally Posted by MAX_THRUST
"I did not take any designs away from Ferrari. Someone passed on the designs but it wasn't me,"
but then......
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64770
"My original [plan], or my ideas, were to make contact with somebody"
He has discredited himself without the help of Ferrari. Ferrari certainly did not make those statements.
Unless you think that lying is a good way to gain credibility?
As for the fair trail.....it is quite possibly a fair point (and probably his only hope of acquittal), but maybe, just maybe, he should have thought about that before beginning his self-destructive exercise?
Come on, he is not an idiot, he is a LIAR.
Right, and a bad one on top of that! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by seppefan
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Originally Posted by seppefan
What? He's not talented enough to be both?
I will just bring this up again, where it surely deserves to bea.
C'mon. He's a stand up guy :p :
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64789
"Former Ferrari mechanic Nigel Stepney will return to employment in motorsport as the Director of Race Technologies at on-board camera company Gigawave."
Picture the scene....
On the first day of his appointment, the Managing Director will show Stepney his office. Stepney looks around, tries out the chair, takes in the view and then looks at his desk.
"Hey, where's the telephone & computer?" he asks.
"We thought it would be best if you didn't use them" comes the reply.
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Originally Posted by tamburello
And the damage that can be done to an on-board camera by pouring white powder into it is quite considerable.
The Australian Grand Prix, 2007, 12 laps in...
Stepney: Mike, Raikkonen will be stopping on lap 19. I repeat lap 19.
Coughlan: Thanks Nige. That'll be really useful info for our meeting with Nick Fry in a few weeks. Until then, I'll keep it under my hat.
Apologies for bringing up an old thread but....Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
It quite funny to think that people believed that information was used in any way other than purely to gain a competitive advantage.
Of course it was Ferrari who engineered all of this ;)
Naturally, It's a matter of course to 'give away' all your closely guarded secrets to the opposition.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
It is easy to become a conspiracy theorist and suggest this was of Ferrari's doing, but I really think that is just a little too 'Buck Rogers' for it to be plausible........
Just a bit ;) I'm quite sure that IF Ferrari had given their secrets away they'd have had Ron's team banned after the first hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
This guy has a great future as a Real Estate Agent, or a "Consultant" in a used car dealership. Other alernatives include telemarketting non existing shares from Bangkok, or selling existing bridges (Brooklyn Bridge) in the United States.
Apparently, he has a Nigerian cousin who wants to deposit $19M in my bank account.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Hey, me too! What an amazing coincidence!Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65145
'In a statement issued by Stepney's solicitors Coyle White Devine on Friday, it was made clear that he was eager for the hearing to take place so he could clear his name.
"Despite having to endure months of unfounded allegations, Mr Stepney has maintained a dignified silence, secure in the knowledge that he would, one day, be able to explain his position and offer a perspective based on more than 30 years as a Formula One 'insider'," said the statement.'
Unfounded allegations & a dignified silence?
He admitted on TV that he had sent info to Coughlan.
And to think that some thought he was credible and it was unfounded to suggest he had 'lost his mind'.
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Originally Posted by tamburello
From his statement, that's beginning to sound more and more true! :)