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A final-race technicality might alter who wins the championship?
Well, that would sum up this season in a nutshell, wouldn't it?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I know that really want him to win it so badly that they are ready to bend and break the rules, but seriously if they do this F1 will loose total credibility !
They just cant accept Hamilton lost ! What a coincidence that they want to disqualify the 2 cars that finished in front of Hamilton, the 2 places that stopped Hamilton from being champion ! I cant believe this is possibly true !
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For some reason this circus won't stop.
This must be a joke.
This will surely prove to be a fuss over nothing, but if it is true that those samples throw up genuine illegalities that merit disqualification, which is possible, what should the FIA do?
I hope they don't change anything, because it wouldn't be pretty.
Now, every time I see the post-race celebrations and interviews, I think to myself: are they that sure that nothing will go wrong with the technical verifications? :s
If the fuel is illeagal, the cars get disqualified, simple! It should not matter whether it affects the championship, if it happened at the first race of the season there would be no question, so why should there be now?
Would feel MASSIVELY sorry for Kimi mind! Poor thing, he deserves his crown, but you can't say it was unfair. That's racing - results are provisional until scrutineering is completed.
Wouldn't feel sorry for Ferrari mind. Nice for them to get a taste of their own medicine.
F1boat, I'm really curious about the title of the thread. What's your opinion? That no car should be checked just in case it benefits LH? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
They should enforce the rules as ferociously as they did on friday when The Golden Boy broke the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I knew the big noses wanted Golden Boy to win, but this is going toooo far!
It's like 1994 and '95 all over again, except then there weren't internet forums on which people could vent their conspiracy theories and have their prejudices backed up by others.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinchote
Hey, not so many years ago in Brazil, they didn't realise who'd won the %^&%ing race for two weeks. And that was without scrutineering "issues"
It's a tricky one, but I hope it can be resolved without affecting the championship standings. It would be a hollow victory for Hamilton to be handed the title in such circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Yes but drivers get to keep their points that seems to be the rule of the year... :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by fatgav
If those cars get excluded after everything that has happened in this season F1 is going to no longer be one of the sports I watch. This just goes to show what a farce this season is!
This is utter madness, it was won on the track fair and square and now they're trying to find any means possible to stop Hamilton from losing...he lost it on the track kids, he over-cooked it n then he had a problem. Live with it, the more experienced driver won.
Just when you think its over and sit back to reflect, something else happens. How long after a race ends do results become final?
Yes, you've got the answer! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Even though I wanted Lewis to win I hope that BMW aren't disqualified. It would be too harsh on Kimi, and he won't understand as he'll be completely hammered at the moment :beer: :p
the temperature of the fuel samples? :confused: :s
When everything is signed off on by the stewards and all appeals have been exhausted. If nothing goes wrong, the night of the race. If something does and there's an appeal, 2-3 weeks...Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
While I would feel sorry for Kimi, a man who should have been WDC before now, I would be elated if Hamilton was granted those extra points to take the title.
Not because I am a McLaren or Hamilton fan, but because I am a selfish British racing driver, looking for anything which may make industry look at motorsport as an outlet for their sponsorship funds, instead of wasting it on football, or heaven forbid - those ruddy olympics in 2012! If it stays with Kimi, then the press will ignore motorsport in the UK again, and it'll be another year before we stand a better chance of finding potentially interested sponsors.
Let's see what the scrutineers & stewards make of it. It won't be the first championship won/lost in the stewards office.
I think suspected drivers will get to keep race points, However they will be fined $1,000,000,000 plus their first born child.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
Yes, I was wondering about that. If the fuel is chilled, then you can fit more in a tank and it's been banned since the later days of the turbo. But that's not really been an issue since refuelling was reintroduced (although you could increase the effective flow rate, if not the actual flow rate, given the decrease in volume) - but how do you tell after the race? Is it based on samples taken from the rigs rather than the cars?Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Alas, if precedent is anything to go by, the teams will be fined and docked constructors points but the drivers championship will be unaffected. But we all know how inconsistent the FIA can be...
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/news/re.../id/2681/.html
Well if they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour McLaren and Hamilton.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
If they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA don't disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour Ferrari.
So hopefully the FIA will fix the result of tests to make sure the fuel samples are perfectly legal, that way the conspiracy theorists won't have anything to go on about :p :
http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...df?OpenelementQuote:
Originally Posted by Somebody
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6.5.4 No fuel on board the car may be more than ten degrees centigrade below ambient temperature
Right on :up: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by VkmSpouge
Can you elaborate a little more on your position? You think that cars shouldn't be scrutineered because you may not like the consequences? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by N. Jones
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by VkmSpouge
Like it. Some might say you're not being cynical enough, but not me...
Anthony recalibrated the thermometers: set them to Fahrenheit :devil:
The FIA can't win, can they? If they disqualify the three runners in front of Hamilton everyone will say they're biased towards him. If they don't people will say that the body was trying not affect the championship by disregarding the rules, or giving less of a punishment (like a fine)... That's people for you!
I wouldn't like anyone to win/lose the championship in this way; I'm sure Hamilton wouldn't like it too much either (although I'm sure he won't be running to Kimi to give him his trophy back :p :)
Sad stuff :(
If it really happens, F1 is dead. (oh wait maybe it already happened...)
This would just crown a woeful season nicely. Whatever happens, Kimi won the race and the championship and I just don't see why that should be taken away from him through no fault of his own.
Apologies for starting another thread, this one had a title that wasn't immediately clear :D
I agree, i hate it when championships are decided in the stewards room rather than out on the track :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mp3 Astra
You can't be serious. :\
Just send them home with a whopping fine to the constructor's to compensate the lack of a penalty for the drivers... worked for McLaren.
holy ****!!! Although I'm was pulling for Hamilton to win the title It would be unfair to Kimi... if they do DQ Williams and BMW Sauber they should perhaps give them both the WDC? one guy gets it for 6 months and then they alternate ect.ect?Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Ruby :wave: :D
I don't think anything will become of this - investigations are nothing if they find nothing and nothing has necessarily been found. But if the BMW and Williams drivers are disqualified and Hamilton gets the champion, then it won't be hollow in my opinion. Hamilton was in a position where 5th place was good enough for the championship....and he was in that position due to the points he deservedly got from the previous races. If the two BMWs and Williams were found to be racing with an illegal advantage and they are not deemed to be deserving of their places then so be it - Hamilton would get 4th which is enough for the title to go to him, simple as. Its no different to the BMW and Williams drivers retiring on the final lap..they get no points either way. I have to say though, this world championship would be one to forget if this unlikely event occured...roll on next year.
Blimey, its '08 already?? ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote