Hey did you all see the "words" that were shared between Alonso and Massa right after the race? All in Spanish of course, anybody have the translation or link????
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Hey did you all see the "words" that were shared between Alonso and Massa right after the race? All in Spanish of course, anybody have the translation or link????
close, it was Italian ! :p :
http://www.gazzetta.it/Motori/Formul...so_massa.shtml
apparently alonso thought massa had made contact deliberately :)
oops...LOL...okay italian....translation anyone??? It looked pretty intense....
#!**@%!!!!!! or something like that.
I don't have the literal translation, but I heard it was along the lines:
hey why you toucha my car
you tooka my race, what more you want
your mama
yours more
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_166.gif
:s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Alonso said, let me teach you the right way driving a wet race
You should be able to understand, italian is very similar to spanish ;) anyway here's the comments (in italian again) :p : after those words : http://www.skylife.it/html/skylife/s...t.html?video=0Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Tranlation to spanish...
http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Mas...sdaimot_3/Tes/
Enjoy
Not that it matters but I think he said something like: You have to learn drving a wet race.Quote:
Originally Posted by leopardsleeping
Anyway it wasn't nice from any of them.
I guess this is typical "Spanish objectivity" when talking about Alonso: the title says "Massa attacked Alonso with very serious insults", and then the article says that Alonso apologized to Massa :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzwolf
In brief :
Alonso started saying to Massa: “you tried to push me out like you did in Barcelona, these are not correct manners”.
Mass answered that “if it was to restart the race, I would do the same thing”.
But later, Massa defended himself by saying that he had not done it deliberately, that he is not that kind of person
Of course? Massa is Brazilian isn't he? They would talk a completely different native language to each other, if they had one common language my first guess would be English, but Pino has said it was Italian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickers
It is preferably to insult someone using language they didn't know each other
I think Pino is right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Here is the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpt0s_A6e24&NR=1
A Spanish and a Brazilian can talk each in their native language and still basically understand each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
All started here, but yesterday Massa did a wrong calculation and missed the first step on podium!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QcR...related&search=
Please do not post links to that bonehead move. Even knowing how it ends I almost believed that FA will take KR and NH with him this time. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
Just to show that it is not the first time Massa did that. In the following link, in Hungaroring GP 2006, he did the same manoeuvre touching Alonso's car when Alonso was overtaking him and it was raining again. So the guy is a little bit unprofessional
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8xD9...related&search=
They didn't even touch!Quote:
Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
This begs the question: And your point was? :rolleyes:
Alonso: "You broke my sidepod there..., go and have a look at it!"
Massa: "Go F**k yourself! You've won and you say something like this, assh**e, you win and say something like this."
Alonso: "I fought with Heidfeld, i fought with everyone, but you can't do that."
Massa: (Touching Alonso) "Try to learn something"
Alonso: "You try to learn something"
Massa: "Try to learn something!"
Alonso: "Try to learn something, i fought with all the world today, and with 3 laps to go, we touch!"
Massa: (sitting on his chair) "Good job!"
Alonso: "Good job!"
Massa: (Standing up, sarcastic tone) "I did that on purpose, like i did that on porpuse in Barcelona!"
Alonso: "Ok, ok..."
Massa: (Touching Alonso) "Try to learn something"
Massa: (Looking to someone who invite him to relax) "That's him!"
I think that esencially this is the chat AlonsoVSMassa!!! itīs posible that here not to be all the words!!!.
In my humble opinion, Alonso have not any reason to make this declarations!!!!
Massa is used on that business of touching and pushing others outside. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Yes but as both Alonso and Massa speaks perfectly italian... Anyway here's the translation :Quote:
Originally Posted by tinchote
Coglione (can't translate that) :p : piss off , you win and you are saying such a thing ?, coglione... Try to learn amico... - Massa
You can't do that...You try to learn - Alonso
I had to fight against the whole world and we are going to hit eachothers with 3 laps left? ... well done - Alonso
Yes I did that deliberatly as I did in the 1st race in Barcellona right ? try to learn... -Massa
Than find a proof for that cause in the vid you linked to there was no touching at all. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
No need for translation, Felipe was more than right! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
I didn't see anything dirty in that pass at all from either drivers! They banged wheels...and sometimes that happens when they're actually RACING! Can't please everyone can you? :p :
Alonso:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61077Quote:
"We touched each other two times (on the track) and I apologise to him because I was so stressed when I finished the race, because we nearly didn't finish the race. I apologise if I said anything to him, because it's motor racing and it's a fight."
maybe you need to use the magnifying glass to see that, otherwise it is clear for me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
You are telling me that after getting touch at 200km/h, putting your life and you race in danger you do not have the right to address the person who has touch you, that's just insane.
First of all, my opinion is that while it's a racing incident and obviously nothing should be done to either, it is clear that Massa was the loser of the battle, and it is also clear that those tyre marks in Alonso's car where from Massa.
In the discussion after that Alonso seemed to hold his posture a bit more and did not need to restore to insults to settle it. Indeed he apologized the minute after that in the press conference. And Felipe will probably have the same face, because what really hurt him was not the words Alonso told him, but the fact that they were true.
Cheers
David
It seems that some people here never accept the mistakes done by their monkeys heroes?!!
I propose that the FIA make a new rule, the one that says that no car can come closer than 10 meters to Alonso's car, because otherwise he gets in hysterical mode as seen several times already.Quote:
Originally Posted by OTA
What do you think? I bet you would appreciate it! :rolleyes:
Well, that should suit Ferrari just fine - if you remember the "hysterical mode" (your words, not mine) that Massa went into when he came close (though not closer than 10 meters) to Alonso in Monza qualifying last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
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Originally Posted by ioan
And no car to block or in sight of Massa. That would be another one interesting for you as well. :D
Just to enforce the rule they followed in Monza 2006. ;)
I think you didn't like yesterday's result.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I'm not saying Felipe is a saint, but he's not a prick like Alonso either.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
I was happy that Felipe got 8th points rather than none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donney
Can't say the same about a certain Spaniard who wasn't happy with the 1st place either. :p :
:up: Fine if you agree that Massa is not a saint.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
He wouldn't be a competitive F1 driver otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
He looked very happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvre8Umf6Xs
What need to attack Felipe than?Quote:
Originally Posted by andreag