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http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/...-estonie-2023/
Itinerary here
- New shakedown Karste
- Tartu Vald super special extended to 3.5 km but the 6 km Sunday version is dropped
- Vastsemõisa stage dropped
- Neeruti driven just once on Friday
- 2x2 stage structure on Saturday
- Otepää shortened
- New stage Karaski on Sunday
- Kambja power stage extended
- 300.7 km, just over 300 :D
- Otepää shortened
Distance is similiar to Rua 2010 and Alalkula 2015. 2010 Rua route had no Truuta Fan Zone.
Any guesses if Raanitsa and Kanepi will have the same or opposite direction in comparison to 2022?
Raanitsa and Kanepi have exact same length as last year so I assume same direction.
Otepää could be just last year's ending cut off to suit better going back directly to Mäeküla start? Finish here?
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Est...1246,26.571035
Friday schedule is shit again. Massive amount of driving needed to see more than 2 stages. And you can only see imited amount of cars first pass if you want to do 2,4,6,8.
Karaski is probably reversed and modified Saverna stage from 2019.
Yup, so stupid like last year. Friday should be 2x2 stage structure not saturday. Or they should have planned another stage or two in the north that the whole day would be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
It would be super fast…Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
It looks to be longer so more junctions/smaller roads possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Kambja beginning is likely new, the itinerary says start TC is at Valgjärve, whereas previously it was at Maaritsa. This would mean towards the old shakedown, also being probably connected with adding a new shakedown.
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/1201...skatse#daltop3
Karaski stage onboard
https://www.mapfab.com/map/AcqR/Karaski-2023Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
This is the route shown on the video. Likely the stage starts already before the video.
so the power stage starts on a road that was used previously on the shakedown. Sad to see the good opening of the power stage go, but maybe it creates a new challenge.
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Something interesting should be coming today(this was posted yesterday)
I noticed this too and wonder what it is. Sounds like some kind of a webinar on organizing an event + some Ott vs Kalle thing.
I saw a s schedule of that with
12:30 - 13:00 Press Conference BATTLE OF THE CHAMPIONS Ott Vs Kalle
So the OTT vs KALLE battle was only about 2in1 rallypass(Est and Fin)?
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Originally Posted by TypeR
Pretty much, discounted price if you buy both rallies
But something cool should come with Oliver Solberg and Benediktas Vanagas
Entry list is out: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...-estonia-2023/
So Lindholm with Hyundai and Mikkelsen back in Toksport. Thats good for battles in WRC2.
Thinking out loud ...
A list of competitors is not too wide in Rally1 or Rally2 but there some are interesting things to follow.
Rovanperä - can anyone beat him? He has declared Rally Estonia as his favourite rally. Without any technical problems/punctures, the only mission hardener can be if it will be too dry long time and it's too big disadvantage for being 1st on the road. It's quite long Friday.
Evans - can be a bit dark horse here. He showed good pace last year (6 stage wins, 10 times 2nd out of 24 stages), but he also has more bitter memories from Estonia - like huge crash from pre-event-test-rally and back-injury from one bad landing. But 2nd on the road is not helpful on friday.
Tänak - a lot of questions... but still really strong candidate for the win.
Neuville - he never liked rally Estonia or Finland, but 4th on the road on Friday can keep him in good distance. From pre-event interview before Safari, he admited that it's hard for him beat Rovanperä in Estonia and Finland. If he does not believe in himself, he can not do any good rally anyway.
Lappi - I would not be surprise if Lappi is going to win this one. He has adopted with Hyundai really well, he has the speed, he likes fast stuff and he has really good road position. In case Lappi is going to beat Neuville a lot in Estonia and in Finland, it may make team-dynamics interesting in Hyundai.
Katsuta - he kind of like fast stuff as well, but he need to finish.
Loubet - speed wise, probably slowest Rally1 driver this time and goal is to collect experience and stay on road.
Suninen - really good read position can make him "friday hero". If he can beat Neuville, it's probably hard for Neuville.
To conlcude that - I expect Rovanperä and Tänak as main fighters for the win, but most likely Lappi and maybe Evans are part of that as well.
Then comes Taka-Neuville-Suninen. Loubet can get places when something happens in front.
Weather wise it predicts to be rain,sun/clouds,rain,sun/clouds for whole rally week. Nothing too wet, nothing too dry atm, so if it stays like that it can be very dangerous for everyone since it can benefit Rovanperas friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
But i think the fight for win will be Rovanpera, Tänak and Lappi(if he can handle the weekend long high speed full attack, which makes me concerned, tho Sweden he managed it till the puncture)
i have mixed feelings about Evans so im not confident to throw him in the podium mix, maybe if someone out of the first three makes a mistake.
Neuville i think will be the front runner of the second tier Rally1 drivers, even tho he has a good starting position he usually has very weak fridays.
I dont have so much confidence in Suninen if he only gets a PET, if he can compete in Southern estonian rally on 8th, that will be a good indication where he is pace wise, since there are expected other Rally1 drivers aswell. but all in all i wouldnt be expecting much from him on his first "real" outing. Maybe in finland.
Loubet probably will be where he has been all season. I hope Taka will do well and beat Neuville, probably will if he wont make a mistake, he hasnt been very reliant on Estonias fast roads
Making weather predictions now is silly. Maybe when we have a week to go, then yes.
But if its bone dry, its gonna be hell for Kalle. Its so loose and friday being extra long this year doesnt help his case either.
Is there any info about the spectators spots? There might be on the magazine, but on the internet?
There is. But you mean free or paid content?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontcut
Just analizing the outcome based on info we have right now, i know weather in estonia can change in a heartbeat. We had our week of Estonian summer, so probably will be more rainy then :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Yeah, free. Usually they show them on the rallyestonia website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
https://www.rallyestonia.com/en/spec...ectator-areas/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontcut
I wonder do bluuford have facepalm or ROFL reaction out of this sentense...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
I have not checked this kind of info from rally web pages and maybe it's usual thing (I doubt), but this is really nice and well presented information for spectatorQuote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-s...tional-events/
Basically, if you really want, you can watch 4 times during one month (8th of July - 6th of August) rallies where Rally1 cars participate in Estonia and Finland.
edit: https://twitter.com/HYAcenterRally/s...53844715659266 - seems, that Dirtfish knows more than rally organizers
DirtFish’s headline is rather ambigious. Right now its only Ott confirmed at Estonia.
Suninen confirmed now.
At least two Rally1 cars at next week's South Estonia rally!
https://ralli.ee/jargmisel-nadalal-t...-rally1-autot/
18 entries in total. Well, if it wasn't obvious that this rally was made for Tänak to test then it is now.
It was. And from competition perspective, I would not even call it a Rally. "Public Testing Day" or "Let's find and finetune the setup for Rally Estonia" would be better name.Quote:
Originally Posted by sinepikohv
But nothing bad there, I guess everyone got invited, maybe too last minute to actually get them here.
Greetings everybody!
My plan for a rally is Raanitsa - Otepaa - Kanepi - Karaski
Hope to meet You there.