Any news on when the itinerary is out?
From what i heard shakedown will be on Friday?
https://www.acirallymonza.com/?lang=en
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Any news on when the itinerary is out?
From what i heard shakedown will be on Friday?
https://www.acirallymonza.com/?lang=en
Revealed now https://www.acirallymonza.com/entrie...today/?lang=en
Mornings on real stages and afternoon on circuit on Friday and Saturday
Sunday on circuit
That's disappointing, you only get to see 4 proper stages and only one new stage. Not sure how easy it is to get any good footage inside the track?
Monza was unworthy of WRC already last year but as an ad hoc solution to an imminent crisis it was acceptable. However a year has passed and we have it here again in a format which is far bellow WRC level. Ending the season again with such a bad joke is doing more damage than good for the sport. By doing this the WRC refutes its own fundaments.
Basically just one more extra normal stage. That is indeed disappointing.
In worst case it might get really boring if it's full dry with all titles decided.
I liked Ypres Sunday with parts of the circuit. But what made it work was that there were also nice roads as parts of these stages. Monza all 3 days 2-3 stages fully on circuit and gravel paths are too much when not necessary.
Even in Italy they must be able to find better stages than on Monza. Last year FIA was happy, due to Covid, and had interessting weather at Monza. We all said it was fun, but if another one, it HAD to be more stages, and fewer SSS inside the fence.
Why do we end up with a repeat from last year, and why did FIA accept?
Good thing we have Catalunya this weekend, but honestly, 250(ish) kms of competitive action?? 100 kilometers of that on the track?? Seriously? They had so much more time to prepare (unlike last year) and this is the best you come up with? The same ACI that gives us each year a different route around the Island of Sardegna? If they (FIA & Promoter which loves to pat their own backs) continue like this, there won't be a championship by the end of this decade, imho.
Even doing two stages repeated 3 times would be better if they have to go with an easy option
Oh dear, what a massive let down. Agree with others, last year could be forgiven as it was short notice. This year they've been 1st reserve, and could/should have drawn up a better route. That the WRC Promoter are quite happy with the route, tells you all you need to know about how they see the sport.
What a way for the WRCar era to bow out.
Very disappointing indeed...I was expecting all Friday and Saturday to be in the mountains.
Disgusting route - made even worse because there are beautiful roads in the mountains. Hopefully this is the last we see of this event
Reactions in the service park have been mixed. There is plenty of sympathy on offer for the organizer, whose rally has been drafted into the calendar as a stop-gap measure for the second year in a row.
But that sympathy is tinged with disappointment.
“The track is a unique thing for us to do but in my opinion it’s not what rallying is, and not what rallying should be either,” said M-Sport’s Gus Greensmith.
“We’ve had 11 good rounds. I don’t know why we had to go to Monza, to the circuit. For me it doesn’t particularly make much sense.
“As much as it is a nice challenge, it’s not what rallying should be.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/how-t...a-rally-route/
I just see registration is until 6th of November which is quite late (but logical as it was announced late).
Maybe some surprises to come with such a late date, all the more as it is the last outing of this car generation but on the other hand, manufacturers may not want to invest time there so late in the season with so low «*real*» rally kilometers.
How many Hyundai drivers? 3, 4, 5? Loubet will not be there but they may rent a car to a client (Suninen?) and Solberg could appear in Rally1 also (the manufacturer entries probably being Neuville-Tanak-Sordo).
How many Toyota drivers? 3, 4, 5? A car for Lappi to give him some rythm but is it enough in such an event? Does it worth to send a car for Katsuta in a rally where it will be hard for him to do any result (even if not bad on circuit) and with so special stages?
A third M-Sport car as the car seems to be able to be a little more competitive on tarmac? Why not for Mikkelsen which does not need to make WRC-2 or ERC? Toyota renting a M-Sport car for Lappi (cheaper and less time consuming than sending a car by themself)? Gryazin? Don’t see Rossi as he was not there last year.
For the championship, except mechanical failure, I don’t see Evans in position to win with Ogier needing 3th overall or 4th overall+5th in PS and Monza looks like a best comfort-zone for Ogier; I think we will see a steady Ogier with no big risk even if he may clinch the title in the power stage only. Would be a real surprise if Evans succeeded in changing the situation.
For the manufacturer championship, Toyota just needs one driver to finish (even behind M-Sport and two 2C Hyundai) so even less interest.
The main battle should be WRC-3 between Kajto and Rossel (hoping he can have the finance for it) with maybe Lindholm disturbing the game.
I have a problem... well not a real problem, but maybe someone is able to help. I may have a possibility to visit Rally Monza, but only SS 10 (San Fermo 2) and even that would require some changes in my existing plans. I am happy to adjust as needed to be able to see this generation WRC cars for the last time, but looking at route map it seems that it may be very difficult to get into SS 10. I don't actually mind if it is start, finish or in the middle of the stage, but would anyone have any idea if this is possible? I think part of the stage was driven in Rally Prealpi Orobiche this year, but don't know if this helps anyhow. So far I haven't seen any public areas on Rally Monza website and the problem is that I really need to have my plans ready quite soon. Any ideas are welcome. Thank you.
Oliver Solberg with WRC Hyundai again
Well one simple look on that is that spareparts and rebuilds for current i20 WRC are "sunk costs" already, with likely little use afterwards, so might as well use them up. In the end it could be cheaper than running the Rally2.
The negative is certainly getting involved in all the different setup variations even more (in Monza it will matter more than in Spain, specially if there's some weather).
Wonder who (if anyone) will run the second Rally2 besides Suninen, Solans maybe?
I thought he has his "own" I20 now? So that would mean one less car.
After Safari Adamo was officially quoted as saying that Solberg will drive Rally2 rest of the year.
Adamo does seem to have rather loose relationship with contracts though.
My impression is that the decisions change on much shorter timescale than six months. More like days or hours.
What's the deadline for publishing entries?
Sure sometimes it might be the case and very often there is no open info on what the original plan was.
But there were quite many cases when there was official open info (like drivers on entry list and announced on official account, drivers doing a test rally for something, etc...) and Adamo suddenly decided the opposite.
There were also cases where the snap decisions went directly against long term planning ( switch a driver that then due to event pairing has to use difs of a different driver that he hasn't tested and can't test before rally).
So that makes one wonder how many of the other changes were based on long term planning.
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/sta...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
No Tanak in Monza, Suninen drafted instead.
Interesting that instead of nominating Solberg who will be scoring teampoints very soon anyway they go with Suninen.
Good news for spectators though.
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Suninen ends up in a fourth Rally1 nominated for points instead of Solberg on a few events next year.
Yes, for once (lately) this is a good idea.
There is potential for embarrasment in multiple ways:
Suninen vs Solberg
Suninen vs Greensmith and Fourmaux
or it might confirm Adamos and MSport choices.
This Hyundai is still problematic to drive on tarmac for most drivers, so hope he gets enough testing.
But the circuit stages are not normal tarmac driving, and if the mountains have a "Monte" weather, it shouldn't be an issue.
Quite surprising news.
I've heard someone speculate earlier this year that Tänak is quitting his career, despite being already signed for next year...
why is he testing the new car and made that early contract renewal in the beginning of the year if wants to quit? Wuorela is pretty high lately on twitter talking a lot of BS.
horrible year for Ott, i hope there isnt nothing too serious with his family...all the best
Really surprising announcement. If it really is because of family reasons, then I'm afraid that it is something serious and I really wish him all the best. Other theories:
1) Maybe testing Hyundai Rally1 car somewhere? As they just had this rally simulation, then they saw that there is a lot of work to do and need someone experienced to test the car. As Ott has basically nothing to gain then they thought that maybe they can use Ott's talent in development. One rally is over one week with all the travels and recces and they don't have that time.
2) Retirement... With the least probability but considering his latest interviews, wouldn't surprise as much as I would have in summer. He has been quite vocal about the cars as they doesn't deserve WRC name and for the first time it is not a real car. So maybe after rally simulation that Hyundai had, he thought that f*ck this and called it a day.
Anyway.. don't take this too seriously. Just thinking out loud.
It could be true that Tänak will retire. At least if he is not able to get next year´s car to his liking and knows that Hyundai is behind the other cars. He is already World Champion and there is nothing more left...
Perhaps he'll go back to toyota or even m-sport.
I doubt it, but who knows....