Full itinerary and timetable Rallye WRC Monte Carlo 2019 include 16 Stages (322.81kms) + no Start from Monaco but Gap + Shakedown will start on Thurday morning .. Full details ► http://bit.ly/2JEUqhz
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Full itinerary and timetable Rallye WRC Monte Carlo 2019 include 16 Stages (322.81kms) + no Start from Monaco but Gap + Shakedown will start on Thurday morning .. Full details ► http://bit.ly/2JEUqhz
40% different stages for 2019 Monte
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/july...1--12-12-.html
So who will be there?
Ogier / Ingrassia -> C3 WRC
Lappi / Ferm -> C3 WRC
Suninen / Markkula -> Fiesta WRC
Neuville / Gilsoul -> i20 Coupe WRC
Mikkelsen / Jæger -> i20 Coupe WRC
Tänak / Järveoja -> Yaris WRC
Latvala / Anttila -> Yaris WRC
Meeke / ??? -> Yaris WRC
Rovanperä / Holtunen -> Fabia R5
Sordo - Hyundai
Breen - Msport
Going to this for the first time next year for Thurs/Fri/Sat and really looking forward to it. If anyone has access to any of the stage maps, that would be greatly appreciated.
Glad the Shakedown is on Thursday morning again, so I can drive up from Marseille overnight.
I think the WRC2 field may be a bit slim unfortunately. VW aren't going and it doesn't sound like their new customers will be either (their press release mentioned customers running in Sweden, but not MC). Hopefully the quickest tarmac R5 drivers like Lefebvre, Bonato, Camilli, Abbring, Kopecky and Sarrazin will be there to keep young Kalle on his toes.
Is there an agreement that RMC have to use the winning car of the previous event in their advertising/poster? This looks good for Ford, Msport etc
No, their press release said they already have customers in Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
most of the rallies (well basically all of them) use the picture of last years winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
I think Finland 2017 had already the Yaris
Toyota is/was official car of Rally Finland...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
That's what I said! Or what I meant anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Is there any ticketing for MC or is spectating free?
MC is entirely free :)
I am thinking of going to monte myself for the first time. As anyone any suggestions for accommodation or can you sleep in the hire car/van on the stages. I’ve looked at accommodation around gap and nothing is coming in at a reasonable price for two people.
Also any advice on car hire, will I need snow chains?
Thanks
Sleeping in the car might be problematic, all depends on weather. Snow chains - it's a must, as weather can change rapidly and you can have over 10cms of fresh snow suddenly on some stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOSSY
With accommodation around Gap it's not easy and like you already noticed almost never cheap.
I don't know if it's still like that because it's been already quite some time since my last visit but it used to be quite difficult to find a rental car with proper winter tyres on the southern coast.
Anyway the most important thing about Monte Carlo is to understand that getting to the stage might be very very difficult sometimes. There are few roads in the mountains and a fuckton of cars going to the stages can easily block them especially in bad weather (once we had to skip one stage even due to an avalanche). The mountain roads are very slow to move on even when empty and the liasons are long. Monte Carlo is pretty difficult event for spectators even when it's free of charge. You won't sleep much during the event - that's sure.
I would consider sleeping in the car only with motorhome with proper heating (even when motorhome is not the easiest car to move around in the winter mountains). There might not be that spectacular low temperatures but the winter near the coast is humid and that feels cold as hell sometimes even when it's just bellow zero. Don't underestimate clothes and be prepared also for rain! Rain at temperatures around zero degrees can ruin Your day if You're not prepared.
And a last hint... the trickiest place ever can be also the most boring place! Don't forget that drivers usually don't fit tyres based on occasional extreme spots but the majority of the loop conditions. So if You choose an icy downhill spot on otherwise dry route You may end pretty disappointed by everyone taking it with walking speed except few crazy guys from the back of the field who will crash there.
Despite all the difficulties I have always loved the event and its special atmosphere of the legendary classic season opener.
I can highly recommend to use helicopter for watching stages on Monte. I have tried it once and after that I told that I dont want to watch Monte in different way :D
I have been in Monte three times now: 2016, 2017, 2018. Like already said, it is not the easiest rally to spectate, but the atmosphere is somehow special. My sons (9 and 12 years now) want to go there every year just because of that. Also, it is the season opener and therefore somehow extra exciting. We live some 600 km from Gap and first year we left home Friday evening and slept some hours in a car on the stage. It was almost -10 degrees and chilly but somehow doable since we had proper gear, haven't tried after that though. Other years we have had hotels and b&b's somewhere quite near or in Gap, although in 2017 had to stay quite far way in Barcelonnette (about 65 km and more than 1 hour from service park). Roads are slow and especially on Saturday some places get crowded. Last year we were spectating in village of Ancelle, easy access but a lot of spectators and had to walk quite a long way. I have winter tyres in my car and wouldn't try without. I also have snow chains in boot just in case, but never needed them. Careful planning is essential and it is good to check also altitude of the spot you want to reach, higher altitude means in many cases smaller roads and of course more probability for snow and low temperatures. And yes, the weather is very tricky and can change many times during an hour and depending on altitude as well. It is good to have proper gear. There are also spots with easy access, but better to plan properly and not to make too tight schedule. Have fun!
Thanks guys
I see sixt advertise there cars with winter tyres in France.
I have actually looked at hiring a small van
By the sounds of things it may be more beneficial to get to the stages the night before due to the traffic.
Couldn't find the date when registrations are closed?
I did Monte in 2006 & 2007, still great memories. And after almost 10 years working outside Europe, i may have the opportunity to be back for Monte next year :)
Is it still almost impossible to spectate 2 stages in the same loop? What i remember is that moving between stages whilst the rally starts is almost impossible and you basically have to pick 1 stage for the day unfortunately. (or 1 stage in the morning and 1 stage in the afternoon)
Any advice on that?
Also is shakedown worth it?
Thanks.
With helicopter, you can spectate all stages in the same loop ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
Can't speak specifically for Monte, but I think Shakedown is one of the highlights of a WRC weekend. Plenty of time to see multiple passes from different corners, almost nonstop action.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
Depends on the exact route of the loop. Sometimes You can do that but more often You can't. I think that in case of Monte Carlo it's better to pick one stage and walk until You get to a point which looks like an absolute must to see. Usually You can get only to 1-2 places per stage by car (except for start and finish) but in between there are plenty of great spots not accessible for normal spectator. From my memories we often walked kilometers on the stage between first and second run. And after that You can build snowmen (if there's some snow) until they come :DQuote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
Yes for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
Went to Montie 2017 great event I did lots of planning using Rallymaps but all the small roads had been closed by police and we ended up walking from the start or Finish of stage each time ( quite a lot of walking!!!!)
We got a Airb&B is Sisteon some stages were closer and some father away but central and cheap
Started yesterday and is open 1 month, so 21 or 22 decemberQuote:
Originally Posted by Japé
I'm planning to visit Rally Monte Carlo first time in my life, is it whole rally is free for spectators?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJFrentzen
Flights are booked and I have managed to get some accommodation north of gap in saint firman.
I just need to find a good hire car company that can provide snow chains. Flying into Marseille and out of Marseille if anyone can recommend any companies
Cheers
At Marseille airport i rent through Sixt in 2017 an Opel Mokka with winter tyresQuote:
Originally Posted by MOSSY
What about chains? I thought it was mandatory to have snow chains in the vehicle if you were in the mountains I was going to just to get a small car with chains. Is the Opel Mokka 4 wheel driveQuote:
Originally Posted by JTGANG
No it is front wheel drive....Is not mandatory at the airport of Marseille ...Do not take chains......Huge mistake ....Imagine going from each stage to another or to Gap and have every time to stop in the cold to put it/out the chains....Impossible....i think the extra cost for winter tyres at Sitx was 88eQuote:
Originally Posted by MOSSY
Chains are really mandatory at some roads. There is a traffic sign showing where they are mandatory. For sure You will encounter such roads when You visit RMC.
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You can buy the chains for around 20 Euro so it might be easier to buy them than to try to rent them.
When we were visiting the Turini some years ago police were stopping all cars to ask if they had snow chains. Without them you weren't allowed to continue, and had to turn back.
Do you need to have snowchains if you have decent wintertyres?
Summertires and "allyear" uselessshittires i understand, but with Nokian hakkapeliita to?
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If it's mandatory it's mandatory. In France winter tyres are not mandatory but chains are (on certain roads). Don't ask me why.
Secondly yes, You need them in the mountains from time to time. Driving from a tight hairpin in a steep uphill with FWD can make You stuck very easily. Also don't forget that there is a lot of traffic on these roads which means that plenty of times what You could get through, if You were alone there, is undriveable because the traffic is too slow or because You must stop in uphills because of others. That's why in all Alpine countries chains are mandatory on some roads (in Austria they use digital traffic signs and activate them only when the weather requires so). Don't know how is that in France but in Austria if You have 4x4 You can go without chains I think.
It would make sense AWD to be allowed without chains. I don't have problems at least with my Quattro to climb alpine roads on slush and ice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
EDIT: with allseason crappy tyres:D
Here in Norway we never use snowchains, but it's mandatory to have real wintertyres of course.
Is studded alloved in the alps? Thru germany?
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Studs are forbidden in Germany!Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Those bastards, the studs, are only allowed in the north. Nowhere elseQuote:
Originally Posted by skarderud