16 Stages on tarmac ... 315.59kms ... Here the road program of Rally Wrc China 2016 ➡ http://goo.gl/kcCx9D
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16 Stages on tarmac ... 315.59kms ... Here the road program of Rally Wrc China 2016 ➡ http://goo.gl/kcCx9D
Is it really a tarmac event?
Yes it was known. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I believe. It's just that I found it only today :)
The power stage is called "Great Wall".
It should be a wonderful scenery.
Let's hope the whole rally will be a success, WRC needs China and China needs WRC. Happy this is finally in the calendar.
China does not need the WRC, but the WRC needs China.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
WRC needs China more than the contrary without doubts, but I'm sure it will be good for chinese people to discover the best motorsport in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I'm very curious how this will turn out.
But somehow all I can imagine in my head is a rally on boring concrete roads with no spectators and 20 entries under one big cloud of smog without seeing any blue sky or sun.
They do not care.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
If no one will care then also WRC do not need China. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
They do not care about motorsport not the cars, i would not be surprised if they tell the people that the cars competing are the ones you can actually buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Does it really matter? It seems like China is just a country that international motorsport has to be seen paying a visit. How many spectators does the Chinese Grand Prix get? For some events that would mean no paying visitors to provide the organisers with funds to contribute to the GP going on year after year as FOM squeezes as much money as they can from an event but in China that doesn't seem to matter. I'm sure Volkswagen et al would be less concerned with going to China with barely any spectators than not going to China at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Do you think chinese people are dumb?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
lets not go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Dog days are over... :D
Considering that China has a growing middle class, this is important.
Our sport is free to spectate unlike F1 where you have to give your credit card and pin number to the white haired dwarf... And god forbid should anyone who's poor enough not to afford a Rolex spectate it, that would be disaster.
Also, you can't just go and buy a red bull racing car... And the Mercedes and Ferraris and McLarens you find in the shops look nothing like the F1s on the track.
A sport that has some real world connection in a country with a growing middle class where not much free things happen sound like a very marketing tool.
I hope it will show the Chinese what real motorsport look like.
Lets instead of NOT go there :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Rallyguide 1 is online
http://www.rally-china.com/documents.html
Have any of you watched the APRC Rally China Rounds? I think last years or the years before were on Tarmac and video footage was nice! Should be an interesting round. Will let you know what its really like!
APRC event is mixed one. They run on gravel setups and tyres but some roads are asphalt ones. Anyway it's different event.
APRC in China for 2016 will be in a new venue. All gravel desert event at altitude in Zhangye, Gansu. A lot better and more spectacular than the previous Longyou venue which was always wet and miserable and was becoming more concrete than gravel running.Quote:
APRC event is mixed one. They run on gravel setups and tyres but some roads are asphalt ones. Anyway it's different event.
I have signed on to be a volunteer official at Rally China. I will find out in a few weeks what they want me to do. The volunteers are being organised by the LeTV sponsor. Email jinlifan@le.com for enquiries, they will welcome most people. Naturally they would like some Chinese language skills from people attending, however motorsport skills and experience will be rated higher.
Here are videos on Youtube typical of the Beijing stages from 2009 with Jussi Valimaki. As per the rally guide map, stages G and H in either direction and sometimes F were used in previous Chinese Rally Championship events, with the service park at Baoshan where Remote Fuel will be in 2016. The other stages are new for 2016. Although Heilongtan has been used in the former Tour of Beijing ProTour Cycling, so there is online footage about that event if anyone is keen to check out that road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XzjMpKr2GU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9wHSyWvAgA
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That does not look like how I imagined a rally in China, if that makes any sense? Very wide and smooth roads, it will be hard for a driver to make a difference here... Ogier will probably win with half an hour lead lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Livewireshock
As a solely CRC event, it was basically two stages, marked G and H, on the maps for this years WRC. Stage G is tight, twisty and winds up and over a range, while stage H is more open and runs down a valley. Also the map is typical of Chinese maps, not very detailed with all the actual turns and corners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Some of the stages are still the same as those used in 1999 however being close to the capital, rapid development has seen the roads improved immensely. Martin Holmes has just done a great interview with Adrian Stafford, former Clerk of Course for Rally Australia, who is assisting with the Chinese organisers. He states that the roads are 90% tarmac and 10% concrete surface for the event.
http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home...lly-china-2016
http://sports.le.com/match/100595500...20160603172008
live stream for pre-press conference of Rally China after absence 17 years.
SS 16 is power stage beside Great Wall
Which stages ? Which landscape ? ... here full gallery photos of the stages of 2016 Wrc China edition
==> http://goo.gl/M8FIfK
Sorry I cannot access google map.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
They said ss16 was the 7th(last) road sector, and total 8.44km.
As they said considering China rally promoting factor to use this road sector as power stage.
Good thing:
China largest network TV platform LeTV will broadcast whole rally but not sure how many stages.
There are no need to argue about who care about this rally because LeTV will definitely try their best to make a good show along their products.
Cons:
The president of automobile LeTV is the man who was in charge of media promotion of China Rally back in 1999 =_=
Judging from this gallery it will be an easy VW 1-2-3 (if nobody have problems of course)Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
Ma Qing Hua the Chinese driver who was WTCC team mate to Seb Loeb in 2014 & 2015 will compete in Rally China. Unclear at this stage in what car he will use or who his codriver will be.
To have one of China's most successful circuit drivers entering the event will mean significant increase in interest & coverage from mainstream Chinese media which can only be good for raising WRC's profile
https://twitter.com/maqinghuaF1/stat...28493225136129
https://twitter.com/Yves_Matton/stat...29802410168320
The china of 99 and the china of today are different countries almost.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaitan
The weird counting of the promoter about people who watched WRC coverage at least once will outnumber the world population. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
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Originally Posted by shaitan
no need Google Map.. only gallery photo for the moment ;)
Like L.B. Hartley's famous line, "The past is another country, they do things differently there." It could not be more apt than for describing a rapidly developing China. That is because you can not compare China from 1999 to the China of today. Even though some of the exact same roads will be used, the conditions and nature will be entirely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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Originally Posted by AL14
That is typical public relations spin and hype, a viewer is counted by they number of times they watch the media, tickets over several days or view a web page. So one person is actually counted multiple times if they bought tickets to an event, checked out the website whilst there for results, refreshing the page many times and then watched the replayed highlights later on TV, another person might be counted once as they read a newspaper or on regular tv sports news.
Some advice for anyone trying to look at Google maps and then comparing between the map and satellite views, it will not work effectively. It is all to do with the datum that the Chinese government uses for their mapping and how it is offset from what Google uses, so it will never be properly aligned with the regular http://maps.google.com and so you should use http://www.google.cn/maps so they maps and satellite pictures will align correctly using the Chinese datum. Searches still work in English on this site.
Meeke will start with DS 3 WRC, confirmed by Citroen Sport.
No other names mentioned
Citroen were big pushers for having China in the WRC so it is not surprising to see them compete on this fly-away rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Locally there will be two Chinese Citroen teams too, one with two R5 DS3 with Manfred Stohl as their lead driver together with team principal Wang Hua in the second car. The other is a R3 DS3 team with Australian Eli Evans driving the lead car for that team. As one of the few FIA homologated teams from China, I would expect to see them located very closely together in the WRC Service Park and not in the national CRC Service Park.
Media guide is being done this week/wkend as well as SIT are on the ground now reecing stages.
For anybody intending to compete, volunteer or spectate at WRC Rally China Beijing, the organisers have requested that all visitors install the WeChat application on your mobile devices. This is a local equivalent of Facebook (which we all know is blocked in China). They have set up a local group account for foreigners to be updated on the latest information and advice. It will begin with the upcoming APRC China Rally Zhangye in August and will continue for the WRC and beyond.
Once you have installed the app, you can scan the QR code I have added down below with the app and your device's camera. This will allow you to join the China Rally 2016 Foreigners Group.
Android version is here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...com.tencent.mm
Apple iOS : https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/wechat/id414478124?mt=8
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Event guide has been published. Nothing special, just info for organisers, villages, importing cars, ports, airports, location of HQ etc.
Works Skoda Motorsport team are going to China. Presumably Kopecký + 1.