Rally Sweden revealed today road program for 2016
info => http://bit.ly/1jrWMTQ
New SP and Shake (8.00kms) at Karlstad.. and also Norway SS include ;)
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Rally Sweden revealed today road program for 2016
info => http://bit.ly/1jrWMTQ
New SP and Shake (8.00kms) at Karlstad.. and also Norway SS include ;)
Was hoping to see a few more changes. The relocation of the service park really hasn't made a whole lot of difference.
I'll be booking my trip to Rally Sweden at the end of November. Can't wait!
Holy Cow, I already booked the nearest cabin (5 km from Hagfors Airport, 9 km from last year shakedown), and now, we learn that the shakedown will be held in Karlstad?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by 306 Cosworth
The most important change will be for the spectators! Those who will be accommodated in Hagfors area will think twice before to go to Karlstad...
Unlucky ruesluporp. Will you stay in Hagfors or try to move? It should be okay for most of the rally - just not the Thursday.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruesluporp
They announced it last month but it wasn't very well publicized: http://www.rallysweden.com/2015/09/n...-rally-sweden/
There is absolutely no need to change. From Friday to Sunday location Hagfors is as good as it was in last years and the 70 km drive to the shakedown on Thursday is also no big deal. Think how far you have to go to Norway. Waiting for my 10th Rally Sweden and thinking back to early days those liaision distances are nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
And I'm sure NO ONE would think twice before going to Karlstad. It's just a one hour drive nothing more.
Old Shakedown in Rada was quite often used now and not the best road, so some change is welcome
Going to Sweden for my 3rd time next year (after having been there in 2013 and this year). :) It's one of the most spectator-friendly WRC events to visit. The itinerary looks good, similar to this year, only sunday is better with an extra stage. Arriving on thursday afternoon, so skipping shakedown (I found the shakedown in Rada quite uninteresting). We're also staying in Hagfors, rented a house there (booked some time ago already). The move to Karlstad (service) is only logistical (not enough hotel room for all the factory teams). I think it's unlikely for stages to move closer to Karlstad in the upcoming years, since there's usually less snow there, or am I wrong?
Maps are out as well. I've done Svullrya many times in Rally Finnskogen in different versions, many of you might have driven parts of it on the way to the Finnskogen stage the previous years, a big drop jump at the bottom, it's got a nice mix of wide and flowing and narrow and fast. Good to see it's a proper stage for shakedown, hopefully it will run...
It think the shakedown in Råda was quite ok, as long as you stay in the middle of the stage where there are no marshalls and some nice combinations ;) What i can't stand is the bloody Kirkenær stage, a proper stage instead would have made it easier to do more stages, all days looks like 2 stage days mostly unfortunately again.
http://www.rallysweden.com/tavlande/dokument/
Well, not much change regarding stages which makes the whole event boring.
Parts of shakedown-stage are the same road that we was driving in Rally Karlstad 2014/2015 on gravel if the map are correct.
First 3-4 km (to 2 min) on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOlnoMX_yHQ
(Btw, i crashed my car 3:08 , not me in the video)
No way, Finnskogen has been my favourite stage for the last two years and now it's gone? That sucks. Which rallies has Svullrya been in before? Hope it's as convenient to get to from Torsby.
Is someone knows available accomodations near the stages? (PM)
Thanks!
Svullrya is more of the same caracter so nice with something new, as i mentioned it's ran in Rally Finnskogen in many varations usually named Sandsjøbekken/Ormeberget. This jump at the bottom before it goes onto the narrow road north again is the wide road and the inboard is around the same place as the finish just in the other direction, hard to tell exactly where it goes. Very convenient, bottom of it is 30min closer to Torsby than Finnskogen was, if you went to the start or finish area of Finnskogen this year you most likely would have driven some of this this stage, the Østberg jump is hard to miss ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Østberg at 3:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvQVUZLLoV8
Last part in the other direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO0j75kfKPY
...and I'll be working this year again. I swear, the officials have a copy of my work schedule and do their best to try to keep me out of that rally! hahaha
i'd love to see two seperate winter rallies a few weeks apart in wrc, rally sweden and rally norway, but perhaps wont happen anymore ???
hello mates,
i have never go to watch a rally before, i wanted to go to a few national rallies(Turkey) before wrc but couldn't have the chance.
now i'm currently in Europe(erasmus student) so i wanted to go a few rallies before my visa ends but looking this thread it is a hard job to get accommodation, go to stages without a car and i guess you would need a ticket for rally sweden?
can you make any suggestions about it? maybe there is a thread about newcomers. thanks in advance.
Transportation is very difficult if you don't have bus full of other rally people bringing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by waltran
The Swedish public transport is hailed as some kind of holy transport grail but that's only true in the major cities.
To get to the stages, usually you have to go by car or some rally program bus via some access road and then usually walk a bit. Rallies with good organisation like Germany and sweden usually give out complete maps and guides to get to the stages. Rallies with more haphazard organisation like MC expects the visitor to kind of find his/her own way.
Your best bet in my opinion is to find a buddy that's also going. I've done MC with my ex (not a recommendation if that person is not a rally enthusiast and it rains constantly for three days... Lots of diplomacy needed), and Germany on my own, but I have my own car. I've actually never done rally sweden despite having wanted to for the last decade or so...
Search around forums and check if there is anyone else going that you can go with, or go with some official rally travel program. That's your best bet I'd say.
Judging that you are a newcomer to spectating rallies, that you don't have a car (or don't plan to rent one) and it's Rally Sweden (winter event), I'd suggested an escorted tour by an operator like Rally Travel or alike. I've understand Rally Travel does a stellar job in organizing these trips, you get to meet drivers and other people behind the scenes and basically you only have to take care that you have a proper clothing on you. It costs money, but it's convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by waltran
http://www.rallytravel.com/?page=event&idno=16
Normally, more experienced spectators go out with the normal flight, rental car, accomodation, rally pass -combo. It takes money too and you've got to do all by yourself. If you don't recce the stages (they are normally rutted, snow and ice covered in Sweden, so it takes winter driving experience too), you don't really know what you'll get with spectating points. Many things can go wrong. But if you are an experienced spectator, then of course handling all this comes naturally and it is the only way.
First 3 entries confirmed:
Fredrik Alsdal / Carlsson Christer -> Ford Fiesta R5
Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas -> Hyundai i20 WRC
Storm Lasse / Storm Ulf -> Ford Fiesta R2
Meeke , Al Qassimi and Breen would do Sweden with a DS3
Colins crest today
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXyxBeQWEAAMV0W.jpg
Any other news so far?
I'm thinking about going to Sweden for the first time.
Just found a cheap accommodation north of Hagfors.
I probably have to decide between missing Shakedown or missing Sunday. What would be the better option?
For me, last day should be more interesting than the shakedown: do you remember Värmullsåsen last year? Mikkelsen was in the lead for 3 seconds before the last special stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by hype
Shakedown might just be gravel too, if they don't run the old stage instead
How are the conditions there now? I see that the Colin's crest stage is with snow but others? Two weeks ago around christmas time we had +8 degrees and no snow at all. Now two weeks later we have around -10-15 every day and a lot of snow already.
So probably no snow at Shakedown near Karlstad?
Look at the forecasts. Next week shows only below zero temperatures for Karlstad and snow on four days. It looks very good in my opinion. Forcasts for Hagfors and Kirkenaer look similarly good. It'll now be roughly a week with a moderate subzero temperatures without a snow cover which is enough to put the road in hard and icy condition. Now when the snowing starts, ground is cold enough so the snow will stay. It's still more than month until the event, but if the weather remains less or around zero degrees (I'd forecast colder weather, it's the heart of the winter coming), it should be very good conditions for the rally.
But under the snow only frozen gravel. Not so good. But snowbanks might be fine.
OK, it's need two or three days of warmer weather (which can happen) for truly icy road, but frozen gravel is better than muddy gravel imo. Also, if the weather stays below zero all the way through and it snows a lot, snowbanks could prove surprisingly soft. It'll still be a winter rally as it looks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Sorry, but it's way too early to tell and just pointless moaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by hype
In the last years Sunday was probably better than shakedown. But as the shakedown is this year a completely new stage its hard to judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by hype
Sunday stages are definitely very good show and have nice spots.
Okay, I will stay on Sunday then.
I chose to whatch shakedown....and unfortunately, miss Sunday satges.....anyway, according to the maps on rally-maps, Fredriksberg stage looks it will be done in the opposite side than last year...is it right? What about the classic jump on that stage? Drivers will jump also in this way?
One more question guys, is there any onboard video about Svullrya stage?
Shakedown today https://twitter.com/F_Gustavsson/sta...77198209527808
Ole Christian veiby in a R5 in sweden. A fabia, i pressume.
Valeriy Gorban is entered in Rally Sweden with a Mini John Cooper Works WRC!
Yep was quite interesting to see this. Have they reverted the car back to WRC-spec or an entry mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by tobbe3
http://www.rallysweden.com/tavlingen/entries-wrc/
No, that makes sense, he has a car that's only eligible for that class so he's entering it there no doubt, great to see. Will that be the first time that all 5 cars made to the current ruleset will be running on the same event?
Ahh yeah I forgot the RRC's were being emasculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Yes it will be the first time that 5 makes will run to current rule set.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Previous time a Mini in WRC spec. did a WRC event was Australia 2013 when local driver Nathan Quinn took the JCW Mini WRC to an 8th placed finish. Glenn MacNeall was codriver. Here is a link to a good photo of "Quinny in a Mini" http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=134348