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Already finalised. Another awful decision from the F1 brains trust.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111795
Already finalised. Another awful decision from the F1 brains trust.
Not the first and won't be the last.
Madness.
what a farce F1 is becoming....
Its simple for me to award points.
1. point for pole
2. point for fastest lap
3. point for each person you overtake (maybe)
and back to the original points system of 10 for a win maybe 8 for second etc.
I think that it's foolishly!
There should be quintuple points for being 3rd on the 19th lap of the Grands Prix which fall either side of Michaelmas Day.
Is F1 becoming "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" where everything's made up and the points don't matter?
I think it's safe (although not family friendly) to say that idea is ,****ing bull****, and that come from someone who doesn't mind the current tyres and quite likes DRS!
Stupid.
Why not change the point system to 12-10-7-5-4-3-2-1 or something similar? It was Bernie who cried that wins should be what constitutes a championship. Now that wins = world title that isn't good enough anymore?
Wow. The teams will really be trying to do well. Double points, Woo Hoo.
This is actually worse than the DRS, KERS and fuel starvation combined. Dumb, dumb, dumb...
If F1 want to influence the championship then for qualifying, all cars should carry a kilogram handicap for every championship point they have. This extra weight would be removed for the race. Should mix it up and make some cars bloody near undriveable which is what the brains trust craves.
Double points is trying to maintain interest until the final race and to be honest, I'm struggling to maintain interest until the first.
Stupidest decision in any major sport ever I think. A reverse grid like the BTCC used to have would be equally gimmicky but atleast see some good passing to the front. So Vettel/whoever is dominating wins with an even bigger margin at the end of the championship from next year..
Massa would be pissed...had this been in effect back in 2008? :p:
Hmm. You're implying that brains are involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiftingGears
This has to be the stupidest rule in motorsports :s
We're going to the circus, we're going to the circus, we're............................................. ................
My question is why?
If they are that desperate to liven it up with gimmicks like this, there are deeper problems. F1 has suffered massively in the last year in terms of interest and they think putting stupid bonus points at the end of the season is going to make more fans watch and make drivers race for a bigger prize? It may also award the championship to a less deserving driver so could make a total farce of the season. We don't need F1 to be more diluted and forced than it already is.
I can see it now...
Vettel trails Alonso by 47 points going into the final race of the 2014 Championship at Abu Dhabi. Alonso has an engine failure, Vettel wins and therefore collects 50 points and becomes champion....AGAIN.
This is the worst rule change in the history of F1. Period.
A point for pole, and a point for fastest lap - would have been a much better idea.
I totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
If that were to happen, many fans would switch off. They really are killing the sport further with rubbish like this. With the sport slowly disappearing onto pay TV and stupid rules being introduced, it'll be a miracle if F1 is even taken remotely seriously as a sport in 10 years time.
Here's an idea for keeping people watching to the end of the season. Finish the season at a great historic circuit, so fans will want to watch the race whether it's the title decider or not. Bernie can have that one for free.
Where can I give you "Like" here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
What a great idea....
NOT!
I presume the FIA have been playing Mario Kart for too long? The more I think about it, the more farcical a decision this is.
When will the FIA realize that there is not actually too much wrong with F1, just Red Bull are doing a much better job than anywhere else. Trying to falsely slow them down, or keep the championship "open" for longer, will just make the whole circus look stupid.
We already have new regulations for 2014 - why tamper with the points system? Red Bull could be the 3rd or 4th quickest team. If Vettel wins from there, fair and square, then so be it. Its tough - he'll have done the best job! Luck always plays a part, but generally over the course of a season the winner deserves it. 2012 was an anomaly - Alonso drove incredibly well, better than anyone in recent memory, to even have a chance of winning that title. But for him to have won it by some last race double points fiasco would have been wrong.
F1 actually needs to go backwards a few steps. Back to before DRS and crappy Pirelli tyres. KERS is good, keep that in. And just let the guys race flat out. Drivers make mistakes when they are pushed hard. And when we get super-good races, they stand out and we look back and enjoy them. Over the last few seasons, only Canada 2011 stands out on its own to me. Overtaking is too easy now - it should be damned difficult, and then when overtakes happen - you can see the quality. Breezing past another car on a straight isn't really a fun thing to watch.
If they wanted to stop the same driver winning so much, they should equip every driver with one of these.
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thum...piny-Shell.png
It would be much less contrived.
Agreed; holding the race at a good track would be best idea. Abu Dhabi is one of the worst on the calendar, presumably has the season ending position because it paid for it.
Yes having the championship go down to the final race is good; but it's also nice having one or two 'non-championship' races at the end of the season. Just not like this year where the championship was over by the end of April.
Good lord, what on earth is this. I literally feel sick. The same knee-jerk reaction that FIA had in 2002 after Schumi's domination. Domination is a natural part of a sport, which happens from time-to-time. You can take a look at any sport to see this is the case. You can't erase someone naturally rising above competition from time-to-time with artificial gimmicks.
I wonder what prompted this? It wouldn't have made a difference this year. It may be a sign of things to come, there may be more ludicrous decisions made in the following few years, if the same people are making the decisions.
You know what they cold do? Offer 18 points for first, 25 for second! 15 for third. How do you think that'll turn out? ;) :erm: :colour: :crazy:
They should all do a race, then after the race pick numbers out of a hat to decide what points they're getting.
Exactly. There must be two races in the last weekend in order to allocate double points.
madness, double points?
just reading this now. and I must say its a terrible idea.
It could basically nullify an entire season's hard work and make the WCC a lottery in the last race.
There was no need to mess with the points system at all.
So you could be 40 points behind the WDC leader and still win the championship in the final race?
FIA is losing the plot
The concept of double points for a race is not a bad one. They've just chosen the wrong place to apply this.
If they chose, say.......India for double points next year, I think we could all live with it.
The year after that, say Nigeria or Iceland for triple points. There are many places where this could work - it just has to be somewhere that's not on the F1 calendar.
Time to add my voice to this madness.
WTF are they thinking? This is Bull**** absolute crap. Why when F1 fans don't want any of this do they think this is a good idea.
For the first time I have to seriously consider sending an abusive letter to the FIA just to make myself feel better and then consider whether I actually want to follow F1 anymore.
Another in a long line of crap that is turning F1 from a top level motorsport to a freak sideshow.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr so Angry right now.
This is such a daft idea it might almost be a smokescreen to distract attention from some other bit of lunacy they're planning to announce tomorrow. If they backtrack on it in a couple of weeks, check what other rules they've changed in the meantime!
hehehe :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Overall, I'm happy with the rule changes, as the good definitely outweighs the bad.
Double points last race: Mostly a dumb idea, although sometimes it could work out well. The good side is that we'll see last-round championship deciders more often, which will undoubtedly add excitement - especially if the last round continues to be Interlagos.
Driver numbers: Good. It's annoying having to re-learn which drivers are which number at the start of every season. I hate when its like 'cars 11 and 15 were involved in a collision' and im thinking, who the f**k are they? Instead, it'll be 'car 69 has been black flagged' and I'll immediately be thinking 'What have you done now, Kimi?' :p
Cost cap: Sucks that it came to this. But it was necessary. Has to be implemented right though.
New minor penalties: Good. Drive-throughs for cutting a corner or bumping a guy is stupid.
More tyre testing: Best change of the lot. Although even more is needed.
Whew , you guys .
Upset at a different number of points for a race ?
Doesn't take much to upset the wee apple cart around here does it ?
You'd think Todt slept with all your girlfriends or something .
It's not as if they are announcing it on the eve of the race or anything like that .
That would be something to whine about .
They will know it all year , and , who knows , maybe it will keep the rabbit , if there is one , looking over his shoulder at the end .
So you find it acceptable that a fourth place on a god-forsaken Tilkedrome pays just a single point less than a win at Monaco?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
You find it acceptable that someone could enter the last race with hard-earned 49 points gap on his nearest rivaland could still lose the title by having the only DNF of the season? Why don't we just decide the chapionship by throwing dice? :hmph:
If the driver DNFs on the last race: stop crashing and/or team needs to build a more reliable car.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
so if someone crashes into the leading driver and he loses the title because of the stupid double points rule, it is okay?
The dumbest rule I have heard in any Motorsport discipline. The people who took this decision must be on drugs :down:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiftingGears
Guys, don't worry! It looks like autosport.com probably got hacked! Give it a day for the web site to return to its normal form.
Even the World Champion hates the idea!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25324100Quote:
"This is absurd and punishes those who have worked hard for a whole season," said the 26-year-old, who won the final nine races in 2013. "Drivers, fans and experts are horrified."
Interlagos is a fantastic track to host the final race - unfortunately it's not there, it's Abu Dhabi :(Quote:
Originally Posted by webberf1