Not many today. Stewards for some muddled decisions.
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Not many today. Stewards for some muddled decisions.
Anyone responsible for the only DNFs we had. Drivers did quite a good job today.
I'd still like to mention Grosjean, though - really great pace and everything but made two wrongly judged passes. The second one earned him a penalty and the first one could mean a grid drop or, at the very least, a reprimand from the stewards. He was brilliant most of the race, as he usually is, but he can't stop having these really poor moments race after race.
Stewards.
Vettel for whining at the end.
Crybaby for bitching over his radio.
Stewards for giving Grosjean a stupid penalty.
I'll add Vettel's race engineer, too.
For the Charlie comment? I thought it was a pretty good way of managing Vettel's temperament/ego, to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
Unless he was serious...Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiftingGears
What about? I didn't hear it? Buttons blatant cheating bull**** or kimi's borderline cheating bull****? both?Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
Rosberg for being nowhere all weekend
the indians for ruining Sutil's race ONCE AGAIN
the stewards for Grojan's penalty
Vettel for whining like a baby
That 'cheating' is what intelligent people call racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
I'm sure they would've looked into it until it was apparent that it was clearly not worth investigating. My point is that it would've been the right thing to say to Vettel regardless of what RBR actually decided to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
Anyway, no particular donkeys, although that was an extremely rough penalty on Grosjean, and I did not like it. It was a great move, unfortunately Grosjean continually gives the stewards opportunities to penalise him.
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Button blatnatly violated the rules. That's not "smart". It's typical FIA bull**** to cover it up, though. if button had done that to hammy it would have been a completely different decision, however.
Vettel drove into the back of him. Button drove a good race.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
The biggest donkeys were the Caterham drivers. Move over when there is a blue flag FFS!
I'm sure you think he did because he let hamilton pass him without even bothering to try to cover him at all, while ruining Vettel's race. I'm sure that's all it takes to qualify for a good drive in your world, the actual rules be damned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Button tried to go around Hamilton at turn two so I really doubt he let him through. It's more a case of Vettel not being able to overtake again. And that's either because RedBull set the car up for ultimate lap pace instead of straight-line speed or because Vettel can't pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
They didn't even show it on British broadcast. Why do you think they didn't show it? it was more timid than your average back marker yielding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Why do you think they didn't show a replay of Button's blocking and resultant race incident on vettel?
Yes they did. Sky Sports showed a replay of both incidents. The FOM world feed didn't show them but Sky Sports did.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
No, they did not. Maybe after the race. I didn't watch. Never happened during the race, your bogus claims not withstanding.
They most certainly did. 100% during the race. You must have been in your alternative reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
What is the point in blatantly lying about it? I guess the answers to the questions i posed to you are too painful for you to come up with an hhonest response to, so just lie about everything?
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Originally Posted by vhatever
Where did you watch the race? On Sky Sports F1 in the UK they left the world feed to show an on-board replay of Hamilton passing Button and then Button trying to re-pass him.
I was watching sky sports feed, and at no point did they show the Hamilton passing Button. And they never showed a replay of the wing damaging incident in button/vettel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
i know you think this forum is full of brits who will lie through their teeth for you, but seriously get a grip man.
I didn't see a replay of Vettel crashing into Button but that was shown live. But they really did show a replay of Hamilton on Button so just admit you either had a different feed or missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
I'd really appreciate it if you didn't accuse me of being a liar.
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Originally Posted by vhatever
You must have missed it. He isn't lying and no grip getting is required, they didn't show it (Hamilton-button pass) live but did show a replay.
Well, if you don't want to have your lies pointed out to you, stop making them. your own words:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I missed maybe 1 minute of the race to get something to drink and that was at least 15 minutes after both the incidents in question. Not buying it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari33
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Originally Posted by vhatever
I never claimed that they showed a replay of Vettel and Button during the race. They have done afterwards, but we weren't discussing if it was shown during the race back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
Button versus Hamilton was show about 10 laps after it had happened.
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Why would they show it 10 laps after it happened? They never do that unless it's a penalty involving incident. What a tangled web you weave.
Ask the director not me. Sky Sports probably decided to cut away from the footage to show it because the world-feed didn't show it. Why is this even relevant?Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
:bigcry: Why don't you just give the boss some credit and move on. Are you that damn prejudiced against Afro/Anglo/Grenadian type bro drivers, because you are starting to sound like a broken record?Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
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Originally Posted by SlowSon
I guess it only works for British and Spanish drivers?
Force India. They've been struggling since the tire compound change. Ferrari is falling behind RBR & Lotus. Button defended well with older tires.
Credit for what? winning in the best f1 car this season, with 7 out of 10 podiums, and with a journeyman teammate who has won twice as many races already in that same car?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
Credit for driving a fine race today without having to ad lame-ass caveats, generally trying to deminish a fine drive by The Boss! Why can't you let the members that this pleases enjoy it for a while instead of having to be the douchbag member of the F1 forum. You bum me out scro!
The truth is a bummer when your hero is a zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
You're right on the mark. This track highlights the preformance differences because of the passing difficulties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I think it might be time for teams that are on zero points at the half way point of the season to get some support.
Maybe adjustments to tyre rules for the race weekend or lifting of testing bans in second half of the season. Just a thought...
The stewards for the penalty on RoGro. I find it hard to believe that all 4 tires made it off the track, at least not by any angle I've seen. Vettel for whining about Kimi not making it easy for him to pass. And the commentators on NBC for continually saying that Felipe got into Nico.... it seemed to me that Massa had nowhere to go and Nico moved into him. At the very worst, racing incident, but IMO Nico's fault.
Not sure if people paid attention to the podium interview but Seb replied that it was a "heat of the moment" remark which has to be commended for. Not many would admit to that, certainly not Senna who enjoyed bitching on Schumi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
RoGro needlessly barging/veering into Button cost him the podium, he technicaly broke the rules passing Massa and to cap it all is given a 20 second penalty that has no bearing on the final result as he was 21s ahead of Button. Perhaps the rules need re-thinking.