Just for fun: The 2013 Rookie Of The Year

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17th March 2013, 21:59
DazzlaF1

Just for fun: The 2013 Rookie Of The Year

If you remember a few years ago, Maximilian started a thread titled "2010 new teams world championship" and I just helped to continue it, so for a bit of fun this season, id do a mini championship for this years 5 rookies

A few rules, the current F1 points system applies and the drivers must finish the race to score

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT Gutierrez 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 25 Bottas 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18 Bianchi 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 15 Chilton 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12 Van der Garde 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10
17th March 2013, 22:03
steveaki13

Gutierrez leads the Championship. :eek:
18th March 2013, 02:56
EuroTroll

Great idea! :up: I'll watch this championship with interest. :)
19th March 2013, 14:23
lars75

Nice idea, but not really objetive isn't it?

How on earth can you acspect that Bianchi, Chilton, Pic and vd Garde will win this?

Do a chamiochip with Bottas and Guiterez in their own league, and then the others in an other league :-)
19th March 2013, 15:47
dj_bytedisaster

I agree. The current idea is unrealistic. I think Bottas and Gutierrez should get one point per position better than 12th (so 1 point for 11th etc) and the bottom dwellers should get points for every position better than 18th.
21st March 2013, 19:48
DazzlaF1

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

I agree. The current idea is unrealistic. I think Bottas and Gutierrez should get one point per position better than 12th (so 1 point for 11th etc) and the bottom dwellers should get points for every position better than 18th.

Not a bad idea that, im always up for negotiation, I just dont want to make it too complicated thats all, so OK then how about this

FINISHING POSITIONS: Normal F1 Points system for the top 5 applies (25-18-15-12-10) but the driver must finish the race to score
QUALIFYING: 2 point bonus for Gutierrez or Bottas if they make Q3 while a 2 point bonus applies to Bianchi, Chilton and Van der Garde if they can get out of Q1
RACE: 1 Point for each finishing position achieved by Gutierrez or Bottas for any position higher than 13th, the same applies to Bianchi, Chilton and Van der Garde for any position higher than 18th

So taking that into account, heres how it looks

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL Gutierrez 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 0 25 Bottas 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 0 18 Bianchi 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 18 Chilton 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 13 Van der Garde 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 0 10

If that works for everyone then i'll go along with that
22nd March 2013, 17:33
keysersoze

I know it's still quite early, but the driver who seem to be distinguishing himself so far is Jules Bianchi. He's been well clear of his teammate and both Caterhams, and closer to the STRs and Williams than Timo Glock ever was.
22nd March 2013, 19:50
dj_bytedisaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by keysersoze

I know it's still quite early, but the driver who seem to be distinguishing himself so far is Jules Bianchi. He's been well clear of his teammate and both Caterhams, and closer to the STRs and Williams than Timo Glock ever was.

You can't really compare Glock and Bianchi, as unless Bianchi Glock never had KERS or a car that was properly designed.
23rd March 2013, 00:08
keysersoze

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

You can't really compare Glock and Bianchi, as unless Bianchi Glock never had KERS or a car that was properly designed.

I'll grant you the KERS comparison.
24th March 2013, 10:39
jens

Scoring no points for a retirement is an incredibly harsh rule though. Even in the "new teams" championship everyone scored, regardless of whether they retired or not.

Someone asked, how are Bianchi & Co supposed to have a chance against Gutiérrez and Bottas... Well, if they happen to retire a few occasions, then they have a chance. :)

By the way, I thought it was a pretty impressive performance by Bottas today - he almost scored points.
24th March 2013, 10:56
steveaki13

I agree. After a tough start he was consistant and just plugged away and was unlucky.
24th March 2013, 14:24
AndyL

Quote:

Originally Posted by jens

By the way, I thought it was a pretty impressive performance by Bottas today - he almost scored points.

He got his crashing out of the way on the way to the grid :)
25th March 2013, 13:37
DazzlaF1

Here it is after malaysia, plenty of bonuses due to good finishing positions, the only change in the standings is Bottas is the new leader by a single point

Bottas = 25 +2
Gutierrez = 18+1
Bianchi = 15+5
Van der Garde = 12+3
Chilton = 10+2

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 45 GUTIERREZ 25 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 44 BIANCHI 15 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8 38 CHILTON 12 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 25 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 25
25th March 2013, 13:41
DazzlaF1

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

You can't really compare Glock and Bianchi, as unless Bianchi Glock never had KERS or a car that was properly designed.

I agree, not only Bianchi but Marussia I think deserve a mention as arguably the most improved team on the grid, its safe to say they've jumped ahead of Caterham in the pecking order and Bianchi is showing clearly what a good driver he is. Chilton's also doing a good job so far considering this is his first experience in the big leagues, for him his target should be to beat Van der Garde and if he does, then he can consider himself to have had a decent debut season

Also i've just got a funny feeling this season that we could finally see one of the "newer" teams break the scoring duck, and I feel Bianchi and Marussia could be the ones to do it
25th March 2013, 17:43
steveaki13

Bottas what a legend. Leading the championship.
25th March 2013, 19:30
rjbetty

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

I agree, not only Bianchi but Marussia I think deserve a mention as arguably the most improved team on the grid, its safe to say they've jumped ahead of Caterham in the pecking order and Bianchi is showing clearly what a good driver he is. Chilton's also doing a good job so far considering this is his first experience in the big leagues, for him his target should be to beat Van der Garde and if he does, then he can consider himself to have had a decent debut season

Also i've just got a funny feeling this season that we could finally see one of the "newer" teams break the scoring duck, and I feel Bianchi and Marussia could be the ones to do it

Yeah I think that too! After being pessimistic in the off season I'm changing my tune.

No offence to Luis Razia, but things have worked out quite well now. I think Razia would not have been any better than Chilton...
16th April 2013, 20:11
DazzlaF1

The Chinese GP Result, Due to all 5 going out in Q1, it would be tough for any of them to score any bonus points in the race, but 3 of the drivers for the "newer" teams managed it thanks to a spate of retirements

Bottas = 25 +0
Bianchi = 18+3
Chilton = 15+2
Van der Garde = 12 (no bonus)
Gutierrez = DNF (No Score)

And standings after China, Bottas has a clear lead now after Gutierrez's DNF and no score, this also means Bianchi jumps ahead of Gutierrez with his impressive bonus point count showing he is performing brilliantly in the Marussia

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 70 BIANCHI 15 15 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 59 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 44 CHILTON 12 10 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 42 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 37
17th April 2013, 02:44
CNR

F1 needs a rethink about how to prepare rookie drivers - Sauber - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com F1 needs a rethink about how to prepare rookie drivers - Sauber

Quote:

With the Mexican struggling to match the speed of Sauber team-mate Nico Hulkenberg so far this season, and with F1's other new boys facing their own difficulties, Kaltenborn thinks it points to wider issues for the sport itself.
"We can see his potential but he made a mistake, and that is the dilemma at the moment about rookie drivers," Kaltenborn told AUTOSPORT
18th April 2013, 10:25
faster69

i don't think it's anything to be concerned with. it's how it has always been. there's a long history in f1 of hyped drivers or drivers who show great potential, but simply fail to make the next step when they get a drive in a top team.
24th April 2013, 15:25
DazzlaF1

No bonus points for anyone from Bahrain so just regular finishing positions applies and its a 3rd win in a row for Valtteri Bottas increasing his lead at the top to 21 points

STANDINGS AFTER BAHRAIN

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 95 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 74 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 62 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 54 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 47
8th May 2013, 07:18
Roamy

Bianchi is the real deal!
14th May 2013, 22:35
DazzlaF1

Heres the results in spain, some bouns points scored after a teriffic effort from Gutierrez brings him right back into the mix

Gutierrez: 25 + 2
Bottas: 18 (No Bonus)
Bianchi: 15 (No Bonus)
Chiton: 12 (No Bonus)
Van der Garde: DNF

STANDINGS AFTER SPAIN

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 113 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 89 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 89 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 66 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 47
26th May 2013, 15:47
DazzlaF1

Plenty of bouns points for the Monaco grand prix mostly due to retirements, VDG gets the first qualifying bonus of the season for getting his Caterham into Q2, elsewhere its another rookies win for Bottas ahead of Gutierrez and Chilton who got his best result of the season in 14th

MONACO GRAND PRIX POINTS
Bottas = 25+1
Gutierrez = 18 (No Bonus)
Chilton = 15+4
Van der Garde = 12+2+3
Bianchi = DNF

STANDINGS AFTER MONACO

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 139 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 107 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 89 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9 85 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8 64
9th June 2013, 22:56
DazzlaF1

Thanks to his amazing qualifying performance, Bottas gets his first qualifying bonus to go with his win, Gutierrez also scores after his retirement came late enough for him to still be classified

Bottas's 5th win gives him a big 47 point lead but it looks like being a 3 way tussle for 2nd with 19 points covering Gutierrez and the 2 Marussia drivers

CANADIAN POINTS
Bottas = 25 + 2
Bianchi = 18 + 1
Chilton = 15 (No Bonus)
Gutierrez = 12 (No Bonus)
Van der Garde = DNF

STANDINGS AFTER CANADA

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 25 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 166 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 18 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 119 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 0 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - 12 108 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 15 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - 9 100 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 12 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - 8 64
9th June 2013, 23:10
steveaki13

Good work.

Bottas deserved a real point today, but that Williams is just so slow
3rd July 2013, 22:10
DazzlaF1

Another win for Bottas after a decent drive to 12th again just missing out on a points finish. Its looking ominous though for Van der Garde who is now 39 points adrift at the bottom and is already odds on to claim the wooden spoon

SILVERSTONE POINTS
Bottas = 25 + 1
Gutierrez = 18 (No Bonus)
Bianchi = 15 + 2
Chilton = 12 + 1
Van Der Garde = 10 (No Bonus)

STANDINGS AFTER SILVERSTONE

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 25 25 25 - - - - - - - - - - - 6 192 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 18 12 18 - - - - - - - - - - - 3 137 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 0 18 15 - - - - - - - - - - - 14 125 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 15 15 12 - - - - - - - - - - - 10 113 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 12 0 10 - - - - - - - - - - - 8 74
3rd July 2013, 22:41
steveaki13

I think VDG and Chilton have both struggled, although Bianchi hasn't put in one of his awe inspiring drives lately.

Happy to see my man Bottas doing so well. :)

After being mocked as inferior by a certain Fantasy GP owner of an Astra related team. :s mokin:

Gutierrez is nowhere Rj. (Hope you dont mind Rj instead of rjbetty, easier to type)
4th July 2013, 08:07
samreddevilz

By Bet is Bianchi. Though he is in 3rd now. No matter.
12th July 2013, 23:59
DazzlaF1

GERMANY POINTS
Gutierrez = 25 (No Bonus)
Bottas = 18 (No Bonus)
Van der Garde = 15 (No Bonus)
Chilton = 12 (No Bonus)
Bianchi = DNF

STANDINGS AFTER GERMANY

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 25 25 25 18 - - - - - - - - - - 6 210 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 18 12 18 25 - - - - - - - - - - 3 162 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 0 18 15 0 - - - - - - - - - - 14 125 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 15 15 12 12 - - - - - - - - - - 10 125 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 12 0 10 15 - - - - - - - - - - 8 89
15th July 2013, 19:03
Unlasy

Bravo, what phrase..., a remarkable idea
8th August 2013, 22:52
DazzlaF1

Sorry this is so late, a first win for someone other than Bottas or Gutierrez. Plus Chilton is now the only rookie and one of just 5 drivers to have finished every race

HUNGARY POINTS
Van der Garde = 25 + 4
Bianchi = 18 + 2
Chilton = 15 + 1
Bottas = DNF
Gutierrez = DNF

STANDINGS AFTER HUNGARY

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 25 25 25 18 0 - - - - - - - - - 6 210 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 18 12 18 25 0 - - - - - - - - - 3 162 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 0 18 15 0 18 - - - - - - - - - 16 145 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 15 15 12 12 15 - - - - - - - - - 11 141 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 12 0 10 15 25 - - - - - - - - - 12 118
27th August 2013, 21:44
DazzlaF1

Thanks to the luck of the draw in qualifying, Both Marussia drivers and Van der Garde all get 2 point qualifying bonuses, VDG gets the extra bonus for his 16th place finish, the win however went to Esteban Gutierrez after his 14th place finish

Overall this means Gutierrez has cut Bottas's lead, but it still at a comfortable 41 points while the battle to avoid the wooden spoon is getting tight with Bianchi, Chilton and VDG all now separated by just 22 points

BELGIUM POINTS
Gutierrez = 25 (No Bonus)
Bottas = 18 (No Bonus
Van der Garde = 15 + 4
Bianchi = 12 + 2
Chilton = 10 + 2

STANDINGS AFTER BELGIUM

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Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 BONUS TOTAL BOTTAS 18 25 25 25 18 25 25 25 18 0 18 - - - - - - - - 6 228 GUTIERREZ 25 18 0 18 25 18 12 18 25 0 25 - - - - - - - - 3 187 BIANCHI 15 15 18 15 15 0 18 15 0 18 12 - - - - - - - - 18 159 CHILTON 12 10 15 12 12 15 15 12 12 15 10 - - - - - - - - 13 153 VAN DER GARDE 10 12 12 10 0 12 0 10 15 25 15 - - - - - - - - 16 137
31st August 2013, 22:37
steveaki13

I know he is not a rookie and thus isnt on the list, but I wonder how Pic would be doing in the race? Its an impression that he hasnt been that Great, but you lose track when they get so little coverage.

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