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Hyundai i20 shows WRC
It's finally here. Hyundai is the end of September to present at the Auto Show in Paris a World Rally Car, based on the compact model i20. The Koreans are ringing their comeback in the World Championships
Hyundai zeigt i20 WRC*:: rallye-magazin.de
Hurray!!!
and here is my speculation-J.M.Latvala as the number one in Hyundai next year!
The news should rather be: "Hyundai WILL show i20 WRC". They haven't shown anything yet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I wholeheartedly hope that the rumour is true, and that they'll perform better than they did with the Accent.
The Accent was developed by British company MSD not by Huyndai. Let's see what they can do themselves...
So what´s needed?
- Enough good engineers who can make engines with power.
- Chassibuilders, safetydeveloper for rollcages.
- A couple of top WR-drivers for developing upbuilt car.
I think driving-line and suspension should be like standard items already used by other teams, like Rieder, Ohlins, X-trac, Sadev ... you name it.
Well, if they are heading towards WRC Hyundai should already have thought out all this.
Add som logistics and servicepark staff - and there you are: A new WRC factory team was born.
Interesting where they are at this moment. Some of you guys out there have some more information???
It's not that easy. Just the drivetrain... To have same X-Trac gearbox doesn't mean to have same gearing (that a lot depends also on engine characteristics which are changing all the time). Having same X-Trac differentials again doesn't mean to use same ramp angles etc. Different space constrains in different bodyshell means different needs for cooling. It's a lot of details which makes it more than just a lego.
Has Toyota gone cold or are they still looking at 2014? It would be great news if Hyundai enter - I'm sure they would want to be competitive given how far the company has come in the last decade.
Maybe they just want to "speak with deeds", not fake announcements like VW.
Witch drivers has been linked to drive for Toyota and Hyundai??? PG Andersson?? Mads Östberg?? Hanninen??
Interesting fairy tale heroes. But all with Toyota & Hyundai is fairy tale by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickenRallySport
Looking forward to getting Hyundai back into the Rally world.
How firm are the i20 plans as of today?
Colin Clark said on twitter that there are rumours about Hyundai shooting a promotional video last Wednesday at Walters Arena.
AFAIK Huyndai has been hiring new staff for some time already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Also did opel calibra in first part of 90's. Didn't do good that job also. Last time they did corsa s2000. Another fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
As long as it is properly financed then good news. Too many in the past have tried to enter on a shoestring budget – and promptly left. If true, I wish them well – the sport needs more good competition.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Well Barreis, you´re right about that. But since MSD did all development more or less without money from factories (I reccon), they couldn´t do anything but just fail. Same for PD and Mini as long as BMW won´t put in money...Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
And now it looks like Huyndai will do their own thing it might as well be more succesful as last time.
MAybe moderator can move some quotes from "news and rumours" to this topic...?
This is something for prodrive, drop Mini and continue with proper factory support.
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Wonder who will prepare and build the cars this time around?
Looks like they themself with Michel Nandan..
And they are looking for some location in Offenbach (germany) for a new Hyundai motorsport center.
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes...ehr/index.html
All post about the Hyundai i20-wrs are moved to http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/...i-i20-wrc.html
Although the regulations are the same for all, the implementation can vary as Mikko said when comparing the Citroen and Ford. Let’s hope that Hyundai (and also VW) get it right from the very beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
“These teams (Citroen and Ford) have a completely different mindset building cars. It applies to such things as the geometry of the car, center of gravity, suspension and diff locks. It was interesting to see how with two such different mindsets the results are close to eachother, said Hirvonen when comparing Ford and Citroen.
Citroen feel much more agile and turns better, but when we going to bigger roads (more straight and faster), the Citroen doesn’t feel quite so stable.”
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Interesting. Some people here (fans of JM & PS) said the Ford is so much nervous car that obligates you drive it risky :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
they wont be in wrc till 2014.
Hyundai to enter WRC with i20 rally carQuote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
By JML they have problems keeping the car straight. As he said to “Vauhdin Maailma” after NORF;Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
“I came true the long right bend before the big jump at Ouninpohja with floored throttle but the car was little bit sideaway. I approached the jump throttle flored as also Mikko did. And because of this little sideaway my speed was slower compared to Mikko.”
Second run:
Mikko 170 km/h
Loeb 166 km/h
JML 165 km/h
I'm trying to follow... So, does it mean sliding the car it is more stable approaching the bend? I know little less speed will help also, but still...
No. He (JML) means that at the bend before the jump, the cars was sliding a bit althought he didn’t wont it to slide and that decreased the speed before jump (or at the jump).Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
So maybe the Ford is more nervous in turns compared to Citroen and the Ford is more stable on fast (straight) sections compared to Citroen.
I’m not sure about this but I’ve some recollection that it has been said (somewhere, I don’t remember where) that the Ford is more stable on fast sections, probably from Mikko as he can now compare the performing of the Ford and Citroen. But as I said I don’t remember where I’ve been reading this or do I’ve reading at all (my memory playing a game with me).
I see, thx. I never read something Hirvonen said about the differences in cars (I think it was even in his contract), but may be he said something... somewhere...Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
So do Hyundai have a motorsport section that would be able to build a WRC currently? Have they built a rally car (any class) in the last five years?Quote:
Originally Posted by rallye-vid
I don't think so, but that's what money are for. The most important thing would be to hire the right people to do the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
Yeah, but even an unlimited amount of money won't make it happen in no time. One would think that at least 18 (24?) months would be required to build a WRC from a total zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
That makes more sense. I was very suspicious of that report/rumour about a start in 2013, with the Monte only 4 or so months away, and no mention of drivers etc. A 2014 start makes it very believable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
Lets just hope the current incumbents (and BMW finance the MINI properly) stick around and make it a worthy championship again.
lol.. :D u wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by sete
Theres probably a few people at Prodrive who wouldnt mind giving it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
THey have recent experience with current regulations and actually built a pretty decently performing car.
On the die, I did open my eyes at this line from the above mentioned article:
"Volkswagen is also planning to enter the WRC, along with BMW’s MINI, which is intending to compete as a manufacturer."
Maybe Ive missed something but is BMW totally moving away from Prodrive or some other preparation company and do it all in house as well, ah la: Citroen?
If there's not a single youtube video of such a car during testing, that clearly means that i20 WRC doesn't exist :s pinhead:Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
There is not a single video of Fabia S2000 1.6T either but the car was tested before the development was stopped by higher management ;)
Sorry I haven't updated that thread with news I read in last month's Best Car magazine. I'll do it now!Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Tomorrow is the HyunDDAY :D . They're holding a press conference explaining the project in Paris Motor Show at 6 PM.