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Fernando :up: :D
Button for me :p but Alonso was sublime
Ki....no Alonso of course!
Alonso today
What about the donkey? I couldn't single out anyone today, although Seb might be a candidate if that overtake on Button cost him a 25-second penalty. It's not a nice way to throw a podium away, even though it doesn't beat Maldonado.
Grosjean is the clear donkey. Made contact once again with somebody, finished a lap down out of the points while Kimi was 4th. A good driver, but too crash-prone at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
Niki Lauda
Honourable mentions to: Alonso, Jenson, Button, Kimi, Rosberg. In that order.
Driver of the race: Alonso - By a mile. No mistakes. Faultless and we will never know how fast he could have gone.
Other Mentions:
Button - Fine drive 6th to 2nd really. Despite finishing 3rd.
Raikkonen- Fine drive 10th to 4th.
Kobayashi- Done a good job for more points.
Perez - 17th to 6th. Another great job and looked so fast.
Petrov - Battled well in early stages finished a few places ahead of Heikki and held off the faster cars recovering of Senna & grosjean.
Fair point. You know, I have this weird thing going on in my mind and it looks like I can only remember the last 20 laps of a race or so. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Great drive by button. :up: I think that flat spot cost him the win.
Alonso, with a mention to Button.
Donkeys for Massa, Senna and Grosjean for their 1st lap antics, although I didn't see enough of the last 2 to see who hot who first. Massa's drive into the back of Kimi was schoolboy stuff
Alonso DOTD :) No obvious donkey for me.
Grosjean drove like an idiot ;)
Noo, he rather drove like Vergne :D
special mention now to Kimi for P3, and donkey now goes to Vettel :p
Despite the exciting battles at the front amongst all of the WDCs, I think special mention is deserved by the Saubers and the Force Indias. All 4 drivers played fair and provided some great entertainment.
I hope you are wearing diapers beneath your kilts......Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Hard to argue with Alonso as the driver of the whole weekend. A calm approach in variable weather on Saturday, and a controlled race in which there were only a handful of laps in which he looked remotely under pressure.
Not many donkeys but Massa's start was comedy gold, and Grosjean barely completed a whole lap on the tarmac all weekend.
Alonso and Button.
Hamilton for donkey award for wanting to retire after a puncture at the start of the race - even with the benefit of hindsight. What a wimp. :down:
No Way! It was Alonso who cost him the win. Couldn't get close in the DRS zone and Alonso deployed KERS in the perfect places. Those were Buttons exact words. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini
McLaren made him go back out and collect tire data to use for Button's race. Not bad for a number two driver. Lmao...Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
A point well taken! Regardless of what Button said; unfortunately in the U.S. they didn't show this race live, and my comment was based on what I observed from a Sky proxy in a 3x5 inch window while paying much more attention to sector, lap times in another window, and commenting on two forums. After watching it on a proper HDTV with full attention on the racing it is abundantly clear that Fred won this race on merit, which was largely due to getting the pole with a car that some said was not set-up for dry racing, which his race pace proved was an erroneous assumption, not to mention his guile, and superior race craft :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by kfzmeister
Forza Ferrari.....Scuderia Alonso! :D :cool:
Well, he said earlier this week that he exists to win and obviously is not interested in anything else. Now I hope that you can understand why I can't stand the guy, although I admire his talent and respect his achievements in the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
As always - I say that I am not a fan and I am blamed immediately :DQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Alonso. Button - no way. He should have won the race and he was slower than Hamilton for a lot of it even though Hamilton's car was damaged. It was about time he had a good race but no way he was drive of the day. Schuey had a great race, so did Perez and Kobayashi.
Honorable mention to Petrove for finishing 16th in a race where there was only 1 retirement.
Donkey, Vettel for his overtake one Button which was always going to be penalized thus costing him valuable championship points.
Button AKA "Can't Pass" ? :crazy:
Alonso, Kimi and Kobayashi for me.
Driver Alonso, with plenty of honorable mentions... Kimi, both Sauber drivers, both Force India drivers... plenty of good drives.
Donkey... the track officials who had no idea that some first turn incidents might leave debris on the track. I can certainly understand that during a race you don't send track workers darting across the track, but you would think any well prepared race would have contingencies to clear debris in the first couple of turns at the race start. This isn't unique to this race but they were lucky only Lewis suffered a puncture, and even more lucky some of that flying carbon fiber didn't injure someone. That was some nasty chunks of stuff flying around!
I think your memory may be a bit selective there. Button was lapping considerably faster than Hamilton for the vast majority of the race, bar a handful of laps after each of Hamilton's pit stops. Check out the race history chart on the FIA web site.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Yeah, I just looked at them and I stand corrected. But even looking at them there the difference, accounting for Hamilton being in a race with back markers and the likes, tehre wasn't a lot for a lot between them when Hamilton had clear air. But you're right, Button was faster for most of the race. He still doesn't get close to drive of the race though. He should have won. Good to see him up there again though!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
Forgot to mention Massa as the biggest donkey for causing a very avoidable accident at the start of the race. Not good enough from a Ferrari driver.
That is not the first time Hammy has wanted to retire when he has been down in 18th or so...Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Indeed. There was no suggestion at all that he wanted to retire due to his suggestion, rather the state of his car. His pace was excellent throughout so it's unlikely that he really didn't want to be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
As much as I dislike Alonso, if he wins the WDC this year it will be very well deserved. He's just got on with it this year, no moaning when the car was less than its best, week in/week out he's brought home the points.
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Originally Posted by henners88
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Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I might not be remembering things in correct order but I thought it went thus...
-Lewis got puncture and entered pits on Lap 2.
-While entering pits on Lap 2. Radio played saying we might as well retire. Thats before he has had a new set of tyres and felt if there was any damage. Of course the car feels terrible with a puncture.
-Then on Lap 3 or 4 he radio'd in again saying car feels weird. Then sets a time as fast as leaders.
- Then continues to race hard and battle his way up the field.Albeit not high enough.
So that seems to suggest he was ready to quit before knowing true extent of the damage to his car. Just because he didn't fancy a race amounst HRTs and Marussia's.
I was disappointed to hear this as just last week on the News he stated I can't promise anything except I will never give up. Which he maybe would have had it not been for the Mclaren team.
Put your fanboyism aside:Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Ever noticed that when ever Hamilton is forced to confront the media after a sh*t race he likes to wear his shades.
Nor is it the first time Hamilton had obviously had to say the right things with the media.
The only credit he gets out of it is that after the pit stop he knuckled down and drove round his damaged car.
Which was retired because, ultimately, the team deemed it too dangerous to continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Unless you were in the car and could tell by the feel what the damage was, you may want to stick to keyboard tapping! ;)
Ever noticed that when ever a driver is forced to confront the media after a race that they like to wear a watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
I would love to believe it but I'm too cynical to believe what came out of McLaren. It's far too coincidental that with about 10 laps remaining and nothing to salvage from the easy and correct way out would be to retire. I would rather they held than hand up said they wanted to retire and save the car for the next race but then they would incur the wrath of Charlie Whiting/stewards?Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
It's another case of Button having qualities that you would wish Hamilton to have - that is putting a brave face on things without hiding behind shades. It's one of those intensely annoying things, much like having a conversation with one who can't leave their phone alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1