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BBC Sport - F1 - BBC and Sky awarded rights in new Formula 1 deal
This is bad news for me.
I thought this may happen sadly, however to be fair it is probably the lesser of all the evils available. I am so relieved that coverage is NOT going to ITV or Channel 4. The races would be ruined by adverts.
Sky Sports' coverage is fantastic and will be good to watch. They will have also learnt off the BBC how to do things when it comes to F1, and at the end of the day we still get 10 races (half of them) on the BBC anyway, including the big races such as Monaco and Silverstone. Yes, we will have adverts again, however I know that this was a moot point with Ecclesotone and part of the negotiations would have made sure adverts were placed around the racing, unlike ITV - where the racing was placed around the adverts!
I already subscribe to Sky Sports for football so this does not make any difference to me in that respect.
I would have preferred the BBC to remain the sole supplier, but we still get highlights of each race on BBC for anybody who can't afford the subscription to Sky. Cost is an issue for the BBC and it is good that they have managed to compromise to keep the coverage in some capacity.
Finnish Mtv3 put F1 on a pay channel a few years ago and they've effectively destroyed F1 in this country. F1 used to be one of the most watched sport events in this country but nowadays hardly anyone takes notice of it which can also be seen in the disappearance of the Finnish posters from here as well. I hope it doesn't happen in the UK. If I were a Brit, I wouldn't pay a dime to a channel that is part-owned by Murdoch.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I read BBC is under pressure to cut costs. That's Big Society for you guys, you voted for it.
Boycott all sponsors associated with Formula 1 to put pressure on teams to force F1 back to free to air TV.
Gutted
I'll avoid the results and torrent the non BBC races. I'm not paying Sky a penny more.
Oh dear :rolleyes: It was always going to happen eventually wasn't it :dozey:
This is a bit like going back to the late 70's early 80's if you don't have Sky. Back then the BBC had a 1/2hr highlights show. That was pretty much it for our F1 coverage, although IIRC ITV's World of Sport showed one or two races randomly.
The BBC will have half of the races on live but surely that's going to affect the number of casual viewers tuning in. They've done a fantastic job with their coverage but this 'half live half highlights' package seems rather half hearted.
And the big question: What about the committment from Bernie and that teams that F1 would always remain on free-to-air? Half hour highlights doesn't really cut it as far as that committment goes.
F1 has a remarkable ability to shoot itself in the foot.
https://twitter.com/#!/jakehumphreyf...43212941033472Quote:
Just got to work, live with @chrisdjmoyles at 8.40 on Radio 1, wonder what topic will be in the agenda today...?
To be fair as it stands I probably only watch half the races live anyway - as Sunday afternoons I often have other things to do especially when it is nice and sunny. I certainly would prefer to go out and wait for highlights than sit down watching races on a laptop rather than just pay for Sky ! How sad and pathetic is that!
Still think this is the best we could hope for. At least ITV hasn't got it !
I wonder how much money they are going to save by cutting down on the amount of English football they show...
the death of F1 in the UK, casual fans (who make up a lot of the 6+ million viewers on the BBC) won't go to Sky. Most the of he hardcore fans (me included) won't buy Sky sports just to watch F1, unless I can just but the races at a reasonable rate. people won't understand where the race is when they watched it one week on BBC and the next one isn't there and will just turn off. If you can't follow the season most people will not bother.
With all thats going on in the UK regarding anti Murdoch/News International/Newscorp who in their right minds thought moving F1 coverage to Sky was a good idea. I'm sure the coverage will be top notch, but who will see it? I suppose there is the option of going to the pub to watch it, but they'll be showing football whenever there is a clash.
The BBC figures will suffer, Skys figures will be crap and interest in F1 in the UK (which is fantastically high at the moment, partly due to BBC) will plummet. A dark day for F1.
BBC might spend a lot, but they get the viewers, they do a great job and they sell to other regions. They'll still have to come up with an alternative (expect re-runs of Antiques roadshow or live snooker) and no-one wil see it anyway.
Stupid, stupid idea
I would far rather ITV, Channel for or even 5. Hell even something on the freeview package like Dave or something would be preferable. I just want to be able to see the races when they happen and not pay stupid money to a bunch of crooks for the privelige for something that was a protected sport not so long ago.
Bernie true to his word as usual, so much for never letting F1 coverage go to pay TV. Morons. This will hurt them in the long run
It's just a shame that Sky have got the rights, but I suppose the BBC have got half the races - that's good. I could see it going that way - Sky have got the money.
So much for Bernie saying he will never take F1 to Sky.
I wonder who'll be in the Sky F1 team.
This is going the same way as football, within 2 years Sky will have sole rights and then up package costs to make more profit, losers? Joe Public.
I'll be very interested to hear reactions from the teams and, perhaps more importantly, their sponsors.
I agree. I am not surprised in the slightest that this should have happened in the face of all moral arguments relating to Murdoch's companies — after all, if there is one person on a par with the Murdochs in terms of ethics, it's Bernie. The two/three are exceptionally well matched, and, frankly, welcome to one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
No doubt the home viewing figures in the UK for the Sky coverage will be pathetic, as they are for the majority of Sky's football matches. I certainly wouldn't be paying anything to them if I lived in the UK.
Oh, and what a load of PR bo11ocks are to be found in that BBC report, which does not deserve application of the word 'journalism'.Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
I dont think sponsors give a damn. They are not really in it for the UK, their market is worldwide, and they are there for association really, nnot much else.
What does matter is the people who maybe used the BBC feed in their countries, from Asia, Australisia etc? What is happening with them?
I would never give News Corop a penny, so a viewer lost here, but I don't pay a tv licence either as I dont have a tv so can't moan too much about the Beeb.
It's truly awful timing, would probably have been released earlier but has obviosuly been kept back due to the recent scrum. Corp want the biggest events and Bernie has sold to the highest bidder.
Beeb are having to keep the licence fee down (in a deal I reckon pushed thru by Murdoch) so can't get more revenue for things like this.
Proper sellout stuff, and an extra little aside to what is already going on in hackgate!!
So much for keeping F1 free-to-air | CommentQuote:
Whitmarsh said last month: “Our current contracts require that F1 remain on free-to-air and the teams, through FOTA, are clearly going to safeguard their business interests and the interests of the fans in this regard.”
Let’s see if FOTA do what they said they would and safeguard the interests of fans who want to continue watching F1 as they can this year without paying over £600 to do so.
Well, there we are then, back to the bad old days of pre-historic F1 coverage.
I wont be buying SKY just to watch the sport I follow.
A spectacular shot in the foot for F1. :down:
I suppose that means Australians are screwed. I can't see Channel 10 getting the Sky broadcast as I think Sky Sports is part of Foxtel (pay TV) down here. I'm pissed! Bernie's a ****wit and if the teams agree with this move they can go **** themselves!
This is all very sad. I know I don't live in the UK and in SA we've had only pay-satellite F1 for the past 5 years or more, so all it really does is effect who does the commentary for us, but it's sad for UK people. Most people here don't get to see the races.
All I can see this doing is boosting the illegal torrents of the races as people will flock to them.
Actually it's quite funny reading that from my perspective cos I've been paying about GBP600 a year for my F1 coverage for more than 5 years now, so welcome to my world UK people. :sQuote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
*slow hand clap*
Bravo Bernie. Your senile ways have finally killed the sport you helped create. The greed of the man knows no bounds; unwilling to take a bit of a cut in broadcast fees during this time of worldwide austerity, he does a complete 180 and takes the sport to pay per view.
Well here's some news for ya Bernard, old chum. I ain't paying. Nor will I be watching the few races you 'permit' me to watch on the beeb. I can't see your sponsors being too pleased. Oh but I'm sure you can steady the ship by taking F1 to those oh so popular new markets.
https://twitter.com/#!/MBrundleF1/st...54735444901888Quote:
BBC/Sky/F1 2012+. Found out last night, no idea how it will work yet I'm out of contract, will calmly work through options Not impressed
He'll be online later no doubt...... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
No, not welcome to your world. I don't have 600 to spend on a couple of hours of tv every other week...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce D
So my world will now be F1 free. Think of all the spare time I'm gonna have...I could write a book! :D
I paid £50 half way through the ninetysomethingorother season just to be rid of the dreaded ITV adverts, but that was when I had SKY basic package and before the recession took a hold......Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
Not doing it this time around.
Maybe on the history of TV sports coverage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
Formula 1 teams seek clarification on new BBC/Sky television deal - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
Whitmarsh wants more details from Mr E and wonders whether this could breach Concorde Agreement.
Genius!Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
2011 the year we finally got excellent F1 coverage after all the years of crap, and it's going to be taken away again. Dark days for F1 and the death of it in the UK.
Formula 1 1950-2011 Rest in Peace
Black Friday, this is gutting. I aint paying for sky. Bernie you muppet. Next to go British GP.
This is a stupid statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
£450 for ~40 hours of TV is better than free ITV coverage with 'dreaded' ad breaks? Really??
How does this change coverage in the UK? Do you guys have to pay specifically for the sky channel or is it like an expanded cable package that includes more than just sky?
In the US, in order to see 90% of the F! races, you need expanded cable that includes SPEED tv, though occassionally they show tape delayed races on the "free" normal broadcast channels.
Dear God, it is not suicide time, Mark, cheer up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
F1 will continue in the same way the Premier League has carried on since it moved to Sky.
I would rather it be on the BBC and nobody else. Simply due to adverts and quality of coverage. Sky's football coverage is virtually faultless, if the same is applied to F1 then this is good. HOWEVER, who they employ as commentator is crucial. If they employ James Allen, I will actively cancel my Sky Sports subscription in protest. Having watched some old races on BBC red button with Allen commentating, I remember now why he was so bad.
There is plenty more news to break on this story yet so I am going to wait and see what happens. However as it stands - I will watch every minute of the 10 races the BBC has, and will decide whether to watch the Sky races live or just wait for the highlights on BBC.
What I am interested to know is whether Sky have got round the Concorde Agreement issue by making the 10 races they have exclusively free-to-air? A new channel - Sky F1 - available on Freeview?
You would need to have a means of receiving the Sky Sports feed, so that rules out Freeview (current free to air method of broadcasting here in blighty) - so that means either Sky, at a minimum of £20/month, or cable TV (Virgin, which is also not free). And then you have to fork out whatever Sky decide to charge for the relevant sports package......Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
If you already have Sky for Entertainment / Documentaries etc which a lot of people have, then it isn't that much of a jump up if you are an F1 fan. It is only circa £200/annum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew
And, yes, anything is better than ITV. Their attempts at showing any type of sport are embarrassing - with adverts the focus.
Well, back in the analogue days, Sky was a viable alternative. With Freeview now, the digital changeover has resulted in a much broader range of FTA channels. I personally dumped Sky once the basic charges started creeping up, and was happy with Freeview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
You may be able to shell out effectively £20 per race, the rest of us don't have that much money to throw around.