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Possibly. For anyone who didn't see it, he was asked by the BBC's Lee McKenzie about the trip to the stewards. He replied with something along the lines of "I've been up in the stewards' office 5 times in 6 races. It's a frickin' joke. I don't know why... maybe it's because I'm black, isn't that what Ali G used to say?"
If it was a joke it was a poor one, and he seemed determine to blame anybody else but himself.
A bad day/weekend at the office.
Out of fustration it's not the first time we've seen him not pulling the party line.
In Canada I guarantee there will be a BBC interview saying how fustrating the Monaco GP was, the incidents will make him grow stronger, yadda yadda yadda...
He also claimed Massa blocked him in Qualifying and still he got a penalty (He obviously forgot he cut the chicane), then Massa and Hulkenberg both turned in early to stop him passing and he gets penalties.
I think it was a joke but yep, blaming Massa for turning into him when its more than obvious to the rest of the world that he's the one to blame. He needs to start taking responsibility for his own actions.
One is tempted to suggest that keeping a young driver on such a tight PR leash is bound to be counterproductive, because they are more likely to not really know how to behave in the more unguarded moments.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
It was coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Incidents and feeling the whole world was against you. Senna and Schumi have tasted the same medicine.
He's a frustrated joke of a driver. :down:
A fair point. Lewis is a product of his background. But nevertheless I think he should be mature enough by now not to take such a petulant attitude every time things don't go his way.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Never seen MS making a mountain out of a mole hill though. Difference between men and teenagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Looks like Hamy chose to play it the Senna moaning way.
Never heard him say anything remotely interesting either. I am not condoning what Hamilton said — it was clearly ill-judged — but let's not place Schumacher on a pedestal as regards his character, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Just because you don't like him?! :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
MS has been a professional in and out of the car. Hamilton in neither case.
True but there were odd moments with Schumi - didn't particularly like the Brits at one stage - the media gave him some hard time, didn't like DC moaning about his driving standards like chopping at the start, and blanked Brundle for a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Come on ioan. Lewis was a donkey in the race and a buffoon in front of the microphone, but you can't seriously expect us to suddenly accept that Michael too hasn't had his share of stupid on- and off-track moments.
Hamilton acting like a tit doesn't miraculously make Schumacher a saint.
In 2006 some drivers thought Schumi should've been more accountable about his so called driving conduct. Trulli was one of those who was unhappy and thought Schumi should have been accountable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Stupid MS off track moments? Tell us more unless you read it in some rag, then I am not sure it's worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Did Trulli also bring his photos with?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
First one which leaps to mind is him storming down the Spa pitlane to "f---ing kill" Coulthard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
After losing the WDC in 1997, Schumi thought he did nothing wrong by crashing into Villeneuve.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
And went on to say they punished him because of his race or nationality?!Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Let's be fair and point it out that he even publicly acknowledged that it was his mistake.
Anyway, we're de-railing the thread with all this talk of MSC.
ioan, I do not dislike any driver, as you well know. The slightest expression of criticism does not imply some visceral hatred.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Leaving aside anything he may have done on track, Schumacher to me is simply a dull individual, whether talking in his own language or English. If 'professional' equals 'never saying anything remotely interesting', then yes, he is professional. But so was Mario Andretti highly professional, yet he always managed to display a charisma and articulacy sadly lacking in the vast majority of today's drivers.
But hey, why are we talking (ok bashing) about MS in a Hamilton thread? Can't you guys see that this teenager will never grow up?
Who lied to the stewards to get Trulli's place in Australia 2009?
Who lied again about it in Malaysia 2009?
Who lied again and threw his sporting manager under the bus?!
Surely not MS.
If you want to come up with another liar worth it's money then check Singapore 2008.
One thing I would say for him is that he would have had the right to be offended by the xenophobic nature of the criticism meted out by certain sections of the British tabloid press, yet never let it show. That was professional.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
i didn't say you dislike or hate him, just that you 'don't like him', those exacts words.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I genuinely can't understand your logic. You appear to be saying that Schumacher is perfect simply because others have also erred.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
'Dislike' means 'don't like', ioan. There is no difference between the two terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Just what I was talking about. he never complained about the huge amounts of undeserved criticism he's got and still getting from her Majesty's loyal servants.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Hamilton even complains about well deserved penalties and turns it into a racist affair.
Spot the difference.
The again, why are we talking about MS in this thread at all?!
Some people are also neutre, at least in my world.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Was a joke? He laughed when he said it.
No one is perfect. The question is why are we talking MS in this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Answer: because Brits think they can excuse their golden boy by throwing mud to someone else.
Oh well, talk about logic.
Can we get back to slagging off Hamiltard?
You were the second person to mention him in the thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I'm afraid I have no idea what that point means.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Oh, excellent. A new super-intelligent nickname for a driver — truly one of my favourite things on this or any forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Oh come on. He deserves it after today. On a good day he's great, on a bad day like today he doesn't deserve to be in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
You're moaning about mud slinging and then making a xenophobic comment like that? Nice. For the record, I'm a Brit and I think Hamilton is being a whining, petulant tit. He drove like an idiot today, blamed everyone else but himself and then threw his toys out of the pram when he got called on it. If anyone has a reason to be upset, it's Button, as he did nothing wrong yet saw events conspire against him, yet I haven't heard him spitting his dummy out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
But not the first who started bashing him. So again, why was MS brought into this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Xenophobic comment? Check the nationalities of those slagging off MS and come back to have a honest discussion after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by hornet
It's not xenophobic, it's an observation, most Brits do support Hamilton regardless of what he doesQuote:
Originally Posted by hornet