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I've been looking at buying a Fiat 500. I have been searching the forums for some advice and info on them but can't find anyone mentionging the 500 at all on this forum. I thought that a forum with all these members would at least have 1 member with a 500 or knows something about them but no I can't find anything at all which is a shame. :(
NO.
I can tell you for sure that nobody on this forum owns a Fiat 500.
You could ask if anyone has a new Ford KA or Fiat Panda as they are the same car.
Please ban Daniel. Quickly! :p :
Tsk, shame on you for sullying this fine forum with such vile questions. 500 owners are loathed around here and all related discussions are taboo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlrightTreacle?
I suggest you seek answers to your foul query on some other less honourable forum.... hmph!
:vader:
Ummmm are you serious? :p
If you're being sarcastic then you smell, if you're being sarcastic then what do you want to know and I'll be more than happy to fill you in ;)
and yes we do own one :)
P.S What do you want to know?
Oi :p
Stick to taking the tube! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlrightTreacle?
Well at least a 500 will be more fuel efficient, lighter on tyres and better looking than your dismal Fester ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Figures...a guy searches high and low for a 500 owner...and comes here. No...we don't know one....well....we sorta know one....well alright..he is a good guy but counts his MPG all the time...and I think other than Subaru's and Pugs, he has denied the existence of any other car ever built..but he is an alright chap....good lord....did this guy hit pay dirt or what!!??
I wouldn't say better looking. I suppose two out of three ain't bad. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
But with all due respect I think most people would disagree with you on that one. But again matter of taste and all that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
Ok then name a car with a better front looking, and don't you dare say the Ka... or that little Toyota :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
Finally a man with taste has arrived :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
I don't really like the looks of the 500. The KA built on the same platform looks much better than the 500. It's only a matter of opinion though. In other news I saw on old school 500 in South Clapham earlier this week. :)
Well anyhoo, while people are being a bit strange.
I'll try to actually help.
At present there are 3 different trim levels and 4 different engines plus a few "limited" editions.
You have a 69bhp 1.2 8v petrol (what we've got), a 100bhp 1.4 16v petrol, the 85 0.9 litre twinair turbo and a 95bhp 1.3 diesel.
Then in terms of spec level you have the base model pop and the lounge and sport which sit beside each other.
The lounge has the following over the pop. Chrome trims on the bumpers and along the base of the side windows, stainless steel exhaust pipe, Blue&Me (bluetooth + USB MP3 player), fixed glass roof, split folding rear seats, air conditioning, leather steering wheel, body coloured heated mirrors and alloy wheels.
The sport has alloy wheels, perforated leather wheel, blue&me, foglights, body coloured heated mirrors, stainless exhaust pipe, air conditioning, tinted windows, part fake leather sports seats and a rear spoiler.
The sport spec is due to be phased out (I think you might not even be able to order it anymore) and replaced by a twinair spec which is about the same but with dark wheels.
The 1.4 has stiffer suspension than the rest and disc brakes all round and traction control+ESP as standard.
The 500 was European Car of the year back in 2008, was one of the least depreciating cars last year, has been selling solidly since launch so discounts of 500 are about as good as it gets, it's based on the Fiat Panda which is widely regarded to be one of the most reliable small cars on the market today, at the height of scrappage it was in the top 10 sellers which when you consider how many cars are on sale is quite an achievement.
I find it a little funny that people are feeling the need to talk down about a car because of their perceptions when the marketplace thinks otherwise but hey whatever.
I do like other cars Mark in Oshawa, but you can't exactly extol the virtues of other cars when you don't get to drive them now can you. Anyone want to hear whether a Peugeot Boxer van is better than a Peugeot Partner van? Thought not!
Which of these interiors looks better?
http://www.peyeimages.com/cars/image...ure-106359.jpg
http://newcarcollections.com/wp-cont...erior-View.jpg
I can tell you which one 90% of people in the real world will pick :)
To drive, the car is very comfortable and well laid out, the gearshift is in a great position. It's comfortable to drive, the suspension isn't up there with other manufacturers to be fair but it's not unbearable.
In terms of economy the diesel is the best, then the 1.2, then the twinair and then the 1.4. In terms of running costs I'd say that the 1.2 is the best and the 1.4 last. The diesel can require more frequent oil changes as it has a Diesel Particulate Filter and of course diesel if more expensive so it's not the cheapest to run. The Twinair has only been out a few months and doesn't seem to be doing much better than the 1.2 in terms of economy at present so is more expensive to run than the figures might suggest. I haggled and my first service was £130 and that was for a full service, not just oil.
As a car to drive distances it's also alright. We drove all the way from Calais to Chamonix in the Alps in a day and the car averaged about 47mpg cruising at between 80 and 90mph over ~560 miles. If you were to be doing a lot of motorway driving I'd probably get something other than the 1.2 if I'm honest as you're very much running out of breath when you're at 90.
Here's a picture of our 500 in Turin last summer. It's a 1.2 lounge with 16" multispoke wheels, red leather and side rubbing strips.
http://oi54.tinypic.com/f20xm9.jpg
Buy one, you won't regret it :up:
Italians are known for a lack of style, therefore you can't trust anything that Pino says :p :
That's why my fave car of all times is the Stratos ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Fair enough, but like I said, if you ask the person on the street most will say the 500. A quick look on the road will show more 500's on the road than Ka's despite the 500 being a good deal more expensive for the same amount of kit. If I'm honest I thought the model of Fiesta that you've got was alright in terms of looks, the new model is not as good looking and the interior is hideous.Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
Can we at least agree that this is horrid? :D
http://500bygucci.com/500bygucci_eng.php#gallery
Little known fact, Bertone was from Luton :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
Aah but from some angles the 500 in silhouette can look like a Micra, which is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Same as Pininfarina, Giugiaro, Da Silva etc.. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
While I don't like the looks of the 500 I must say that I do rather quite like the alloy wheels of the moron that owns the Arbath in my street. :)
Have a look a the 500 Abarth then ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
but the Micra was styled on the original 500 so what are they going to make the 500 look like? The original Micra? :p That's like someone making a car that looks like a Stratos and then criticising Lanica for making something that looks a little like the copy of the Stratos.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Whilst the 500 does look like the Micra, it's a far more successful modern copy of the original 500 ;) The interior of the Micra is extremely dull and not particularly nice yet the 500 is a very very nice place to be.
There's even a £35,000 one if you want
http://www.zercustoms.com/news/image...-Ferrari-1.jpg
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2750088.htm
Personally I'm not a fan as I think it cheapens both the Abarth and Ferrari brands but they're selling and I don't see many other manufacturers selling supermini's for 35k so it must have something going for it.
thats a 500 i could get on board with.
I would quite like it's Brembo's and the Koni's that it rides on. Engine and box would be nice too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
I just love it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
You would though! You Italians have no style :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
Since I don't fancy driving around in a 1950's american diner, I'll take the first one thanks :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
That's what I expected from you :s :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Some strange 50's american diners you've been to :mark:
http://www.fiat-500.co.uk/store/cata...rman500int.jpg
Which Micra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I always thought the original Micra was styled on the original Mini.
http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblo...-500-580px.jpg
The main target group of 500 is men :p :
Bad tOdy
One advice, don't drive it fast cause it will roll over in no time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJU2vhKHaTA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J0LWNhhJ-k&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VztPQtCh-CU&NR=1
Buy one of the old ones, much better than the new one, much cheaper too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKWsY...eature=related
Lol ioan, that car is an Assetto Corse and the bodykit obviously grounded on the kerb. I've driven my 500 fairly quick and it hasn't rolled yet :)
Even worse, if a race prepped car rolls like that I wouldn't want to drive a normal one in anger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
And BTW there is one rolling in almost any video related to race Fiat 500s! :eek:
Ioan, a car will only roll when it hits something :) http://www.txt-drive.co.uk/blog/2010...g-lesson-true/
500 only rolled because it hit something.
I've done over 25,000 miles in a 500 so I'm fairly well qualified to say whether or not it's a Roly poly car or not ;)