[IRC][ERC][EHRC][BRC]Geko Ypres Rally 2011

If they make already a thread about the Barum Rally it would be also good then that we would also make on of the Geko Ypres Rally. Stijn Ducastel made a nice list of possible S2000 entries for this nice rally end of June. And maybe we could even talk about the Historic Event that has also every year a great entry list!

The list:
Skoda Fabia S2000 ( 11 )
Kopecky
Loix
Mikkelsen
Gardemeister
Thlustak
Van Loon
Ten Brinke
Travaglia
Rzeźnik
Barrable
Sandell
Hanninen ??
Wallenwein ??

Peugeot 207 S2000 ( 9 )
Wilks
Neuville
Magelhaes
Bouffier
Betti
Gyoshev
Bruyneel
Debackere
Cracco
Settembrini ??

Ford Fiesta S2000( 4 )
Herbold
Solowow
Oleksowicz
Maurin
Scandola ??

Proton Satria S2000( 2 )

Basso
Andersson

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Originally Posted by mousti

If they make already a thread about the Barum Rally ...

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That was me. 100% unofficial, 100% enthusiasm. I'd love to visit Ypres one day too, but for a Finn the date is bad if it always clashes with our midsummer party which is a holiday most Finns love to spend by a lakeside (maybe that's why Juho doesn't like Ypres... perhaps?). But Ypres' stages look demanding, scenery is beautiful and the entry is always very strong.

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

That was me. 100% unofficial, 100% enthusiasm. I'd love to visit Ypres one day too, but for a Finn the date is bad if it always clashes with our midsummer party which is a holiday most Finns love to spend by a lakeside (maybe that's why Juho doesn't like Ypres... perhaps?). But Ypres' stages look demanding, scenery is beautiful and the entry is always very strong.

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I had no criticism because u opened that topic, those rallies are one the most popular events of the IRC season that everyone want to plan very early and very good that they can enjoy the full action ! :D Myeah maybe but if he comes early enough he can enjoy at the beach :D . We'll see if he comes it would be great to show his great pace on asphalt against Loix on Belgian soil. Also a great warming up for the ADAC Rally Deutschland in my oppinion :)

Would be nice if Duval could get his arse into gear and agree some deal with M-Sport for Fiesta S2000 for Corsica and Ypres and Fiesta WRC for WRC Germany!

Pieter Tsjoen will for sure enter will be Ford or Mini S2000 or Superproduction :)

It will be great event, I am looking forward to this event.

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Originally Posted by PLuto

It will be great event, I am looking forward to this event.

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Chance to meet u is kinda slim probably? You'll be always in service? Will be one of the top events of IRC again !

PS: Isn't there an edit button :( so I can edit my list, Gyoshev was wrong obviously

No, for sure you can meet me on scrutineering and on shakedown. Last year I was almost whole Saturday switching between press room and pubs in Ypres :s mokin:

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Originally Posted by PLuto

No, for sure you can meet me on scrutineering and on shakedown. Last year I was almost whole Saturday switching between press room and pubs in Ypres :s mokin:

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Shakedown is a possibility but so much people there :O. From what day u will be in Ypres, I'll probably visit the service park on wednesday.

Haha u know what to do if it's a bit too hot just walk 20 metres and drink some nice beers :D

You can always find Pluto in shakedown or in service. :D

Kahle and Wallenwein with Fabia S2000 would be almost sure that they'll be in Ypres.. source: Yannick Willockx Engineer of Loix

Autonews says Arai too but I thought they wouldn't drive in Ypres?

Arai dont have Ypres in his plans - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12098

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Arai dont have Ypres in his plans - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12098

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What I also thought Pluto, Autonews really as a magazine need to check their sources. :)

The very fast and very spectacular Dutch pilot Jasper Van den Heuvel announced his participation in the 2011 Geko Ypres Rally in a brandnew Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X R4 (Ypres Facebook)


Best reference point u can have for a Lancer R4 car to see where they at against S2000's !!

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Originally Posted by mousti

The very fast and very spectacular Dutch pilot Jasper Van den Heuvel announced his participation in the 2011 Geko Ypres Rally in a brandnew Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X R4 (Ypres Facebook)


Best reference point u can have for a Lancer R4 car to see where they at against S2000's !!

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Nice!

yes! vd heuvel back in busyness, thats really nice! i had hoped to see him at wallonie already, he was driving fantastic there last year!

Looking forward to Ypres 2011, and our 6th ? visit

Bringing the Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance backed Fiesta R2 this year http://www.dsairambulance.org.uk/ral...nsorship-deal/

No Fiesta S1600 anymore?

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Originally Posted by Mirek

No Fiesta S1600 anymore?

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Sadly not !!

Now in France doing sprint and hill climbs i believe,, Was time for a change, very hard car to drive !!

The R2 so much easier :)

I believe You. But You know it's so rare car...

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I believe You. But You know it's so rare car...

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Indeed a pity is a nice car with nice sound, but I follow their reasons too :) . Btw Mirek isn't their such one driving in your country thought I saw one on a pic this year..

Yes, there is one of Petr Zedník. It's good one, he made a lot of development on it and made it relatively fast and reliable car, still not top though, especially the torque in lower rpm is still very bad.

This is nothing to do with ypres, but the fiesta had one big problem and that was grip.We tried so many things to improve traction with the car.One big gain was changing the fireing order. That gave us so much more driveability and reliability.

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Originally Posted by popie13

This is nothing to do with ypres, but the fiesta had one big problem and that was grip.We tried so many things to improve traction with the car.One big gain was changing the fireing order. That gave us so much more driveability and reliability.

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Does the Puma S1600 have the same challenge with traction, and is it the same engine ?
What did you change the fireingorder from and to ?

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Does the Puma S1600 have the same challenge with traction, and is it the same engine ?
What did you change the fireingorder from and to ?

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Could be but I don't think so, Duval did some nice things in JWRC with it, that's what never happened with the Fiesta it never got good results anywhere :-/

The puma got some results, but Super 1600 was at a early stage.The Fiesta should have been a big improvement, but it was not.
The fireing order we think was an issue so that was changed,from a 1234 to a 1342.After remapping the engine was so more drivable, no more alt problems, radiators splits, the list went on.The down side in changing the order was the exhaust note,before on full chat the car sounded great,a bit like a rotary engine, but after it just sounded like a normal S1600.
I could go on about them for hours, but the thread is about Ypres rally.
I have competed in rallys since 1978 from small single venues to World rally, and i think you will be pushed to find a better ALL ROUND rally than Ypres in the World.
If someone comes up to me and says they are thinking of either watching or going to compete there, i says just do it, you will never be disappointed.

Martin Knudsen maybe on Ypres with Proton - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12133

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Originally Posted by popie13

The fireing order we think was an issue so that was changed,from a 1234 to a 1342.

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I can't believe that anyone would build a 4 cylinder engine with a 1234 firing order. The shape of crankshaft needed would result in an inherantly unbalanced design that would simply shake itself to bits as pistons 1&2 would both have to be at TDC while 3&4 were at BDC. The conventional crank design has 2&3 at TDC while 1&4 are at BDC. With this design the firing order can be either 1243 or 1342 and it makes no difference whatsoever to the way the engine performs which of these you choose, although it does affect the way the lobes on the crankshaft are arranged. If the engine was actually 1243 (not 1234 as you have said) and it was better after you made the changes then I suspect it was the remapping that improved it not any change in firing order.

With the fireing order 1234, yes the car did shake to bits, thats where the unreliably came in, Alternators would fall to bits, Radiators would crack and nuts and bolts would loose their correct torque.
The Fiesta could just about complete a ERC/IRC round, driven at 7/10, but on a Wrc event the amount of work needed at service on the second evening was too much to finish the third day.
Dont worry we tried everything before we changed the order,because the Fiesta was homologated with a 1234 crank.

I'm amazed - sounds like the guy in charge of the engine homologation was also a crank!
(PS Should have typed 1&3 at TDC with 2&4 at BDC in my post above)

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Originally Posted by mousti

Indeed a pity is a nice car with nice sound, but I follow their reasons too :) . Btw Mirek isn't their such one driving in your country thought I saw one on a pic this year..

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Sorry for off topic , but I saw mr. Zednik's car in person , and it has a FANTASTIC sound :)

I don't find it fantastic, especially in lower rpm it's quite strange sound.

Autonews reported that Longhi will drive Ypres in the Mini, somebody of the Italians want to confirm that ? :) Autonews is very good in spreading such things but are for sure not 100% sure ! Also they saying a Dutch pilot bought a Mini..

Maybe as security car. The MINI was not alowed to enter in 1000 Miglia from ERC

Ehm, why? It is allowed by the rules (page 10: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.ns ... s&Appx.pdf )

I saw Alessandro Perico saying on motors tv ERC resume, that he had not participated with the mini because they had not authorized

As far as I know , Longhi will drive the car for the first time in ERC in Croatia

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Originally Posted by RICARDO75

I saw Alessandro Perico saying on motors tv ERC resume, that he had not participated with the mini because they had not authorized

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Mini wasnt authorised to score points in CIR.

Ok. Thanks Pluto

How come so few Fiestas?

It is very strange that they have disappeared already

Is M-Sport not interested in them now?