Donald Trump to drive Indy 500 Pace Car

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7th April 2011, 06:20
call_me_andrew

Donald Trump to drive Indy 500 Pace Car

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110405/..._indy500_trump

The Donald is driving a convertible! Get ready for more of this:

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7th April 2011, 06:33
garyshell

Except he will be wearing a helmet. My hope is in practice he spins the car out and doesn't have the balls to get back in it. What a tool. Why the hell is he in the car and not a former driver? This is the 100th anniversary. What does this blowhard jerk have to do with the 100th Anniversary?

Gary
7th April 2011, 07:50
Dr. Krogshöj

Even Gordon Ramsay would have been a better option. (He'll be the grand marshall at Long Beach.) He is a worldwide celebrity and a very cool guy. Who's this Donald Trump anyway? Reading the Wikipedia article, I cannot fathom why he was chosen by IMS. A rich business magnate who keeps going about Obama's birth status and wants to run for president? Are really businesspeople and politicians are the type of celebrities people want to see? Is there such a thing as a pace car ride buyer?
7th April 2011, 12:48
Chris R

I second both of the above threads.... that the driver is not Foyt, Mears or Unser Sr. is a disgrace
7th April 2011, 14:07
NickFalzone

I like Trump and agree with this politics. As far as driving the 500 pace car, it doesn't bother me any more than having guys like Mark Wahlberg or other celebrities out there doing the same thing. As a possible Presidential candidate, I think it might add some more attention to the 500 this year. I like the idea of Foyt or Mears doing it, but they're at nearly every race anyway, it's not like bringing them out of retirement to show up for the 500.
7th April 2011, 19:34
Mightyreds

Is there any more meaningless position than pace car driver. Whatever gets the most publicity is the only relevant factor.
7th April 2011, 19:41
Chris R

Ask the 1972(73??) folks who were run over by the pace car about the importance of having someone with a clue behind the wheel... (although fundamentally, I agree with you - I just think this one is a little over the top though - especially for the centennial year race - it should be a racer (or someone who is important to/interested in racing in there at least this year...) Put Letterman or Jay Leno out there if you want star appeal at least they are car guys.....
7th April 2011, 19:54
DBell

The racer in me would like Foyt, but I understand that trying to get celebrity gives publicity opportunities and the sport needs to take advantage of any they can get. But Trump? I don't see what this guy really adds in star power. Many like him, but just as many think he's a buffoon. I like the idea of Leno or Letterman. They would talk about it all the time on their nightly shows and both really do enjoy racing and cars.

If they are going to go this way, then maybe Randy could really score a coup. Get President Obama at Indy and he could tape a copy of his birth certificate to a pit board and show it to Trump as he drives by. :s mokin:
7th April 2011, 20:29
NickFalzone

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Originally Posted by DBell

The racer in me would like Foyt, but I understand that trying to get celebrity gives publicity opportunities and the sport needs to take advantage of any they can get. But Trump? I don't see what this guy really adds in star power. Many like him, but just as many think he's a buffoon. I like the idea of Leno or Letterman. They would talk about it all the time on their nightly shows and both really do enjoy racing and cars.

If they are going to go this way, then maybe Randy could really score a coup. Get President Obama at Indy and he could tape a copy of his birth certificate to a pit board and show it to Trump as he drives by. :s mokin:

Lol you mean the birth certificate he has yet to produce, and has spent over 2 million to fight in lawsuits for not providing it? Honestly I wouldn't even care, but for the fact that he's sucked so much as a President and maybe this could kick his butt out early.
8th April 2011, 02:54
call_me_andrew

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

Lol you mean the birth certificate he has yet to produce, and has spent over 2 million to fight in lawsuits for not providing it?

He means this one. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

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Originally Posted by Chris R

Ask the 1972(73??) folks who were run over by the pace car about the importance of having someone with a clue behind the wheel... (although fundamentally, I agree with you - I just think this one is a little over the top though - especially for the centennial year race - it should be a racer (or someone who is important to/interested in racing in there at least this year...) Put Letterman or Jay Leno out there if you want star appeal at least they are car guys.....

I agree that the 500's pace car driver should be a celebrity, but it's important that the driver has some competence.

Also I'm still pissed at Leno over that Conan fiasco.
8th April 2011, 03:15
NickFalzone

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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

He means this one. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

I don't know what FactCheck.org is but they're simply wrong on this one. What has been put forward is a "Certificate of Birth" which is not the same as a Birth Certificate. In fact, this Certificate cannot even be used as a proof of ID by state or federal agencies, such as the DMV. It is a useless document. That, plus a newspaper mention, does still not fulfill the requirement of actually having a Birth Certificate. Why the actual Birth Certificate has not been presented is hard to know. Maybe it simply got lost at the time of birth. Lacking this document does not mean he was born outside this country. But it's a key requirement of becoming President that you are a citizen of the US, and with this president, that requirement has not been fulfilled. If I went to my DMV with a newspaper article and a "Certificate of Birth", they would not consider those to be valid proof of ID. They would request my actual "Birth Certificate" along with my social security card (another document of Obama's that is odd, as he has a Connecticut SS#). So the same should be required of our President.
8th April 2011, 04:38
garyshell

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

I don't know what FactCheck.org is but they're simply wrong on this one. What has been put forward is a "Certificate of Birth" which is not the same as a Birth Certificate. In fact, this Certificate cannot even be used as a proof of ID by state or federal agencies, such as the DMV. It is a useless document. That, plus a newspaper mention, does still not fulfill the requirement of actually having a Birth Certificate. Why the actual Birth Certificate has not been presented is hard to know. Maybe it simply got lost at the time of birth. Lacking this document does not mean he was born outside this country. But it's a key requirement of becoming President that you are a citizen of the US, and with this president, that requirement has not been fulfilled. If I went to my DMV with a newspaper article and a "Certificate of Birth", they would not consider those to be valid proof of ID. They would request my actual "Birth Certificate" along with my social security card (another document of Obama's that is odd, as he has a Connecticut SS#). So the same should be required of our President.

Take it somewhere else, and take the Donald with you. This is precisely why it was a STUPID idea to even suggest this guy as the pace car driver. He is divisive, we don't need another division in the fan base. A truely STUPID move on the part of the folks at 16th and Georgetown.

Gary
8th April 2011, 16:44
SoCalPVguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyshell

Take it somewhere else, and take the Donald with you. This is precisely why it was a STUPID idea to even suggest this guy as the pace car driver. He is divisive, we don't need another division in the fan base. A truely STUPID move on the part of the folks at 16th and Georgetown.

Gary

THE Donald to Gary: "You're Fired !!!" LOL
9th April 2011, 02:09
Leo Krupe

Donald Trump's an idiot.

Now, to the related idiocy of the birth certificate vs certificate of live birth debate.

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

In fact, this Certificate cannot even be used as a proof of ID by state or federal agencies, such as the DMV. It is a useless document.

I'd like to know where you got this information, and if it's a useless document, why issue it?

I think you've been drinking too much tea and not thinking for yourself enough.

Donald Trump is also a publicity seeking egomaniacal windbag whose sole interest is himself. He said in one interview that we would not believe what his investigators in Hawaii were finding out about Obama. The trouble is, he hasn't said what that is. If in fact he has strong evidence, or even outright proof of these idiotic birther claims, he has the responsibility to show it now before any more damage is done. I predict it'll fizzle like Al Capone's vault.
9th April 2011, 05:07
Mark in Oshawa

I love the Donald's chutzpah. I think personally it is a great thing to have him driving the pace car. First off, love him or hate him, people will talk about him. The man is a show man, and a master promoter. Since they gave up putting anyone BUT celebs behind the wheel of the pace car in the last few years, does it really matter if they put him in the car or Jay Leno (he has done it already)? I suspect not. Every celeb has his/her fans and detractors. AT least with the Donald, everyone knows who he is, and if he ever decided to put his money into racing, no one would complain...
9th April 2011, 05:09
Mark in Oshawa

As for his attacks on Obama, I find it quite amusing....Obama hasn't really answered any of those questions, and I suppose he shouldn't have to. Donald though just asks the relevent question, why all the work to not produce something? Personally, I think Obama is from Hawaii. I don't doubt it for a second, but it is fun watching him and Donald on opposite sides..makes for great theatre!
10th April 2011, 05:04
mileman

Trump is an idiot, blowhard, egomaniac - who now fancies himself an idiot, blowhard, politician. why on earth would the IRL want to salute the 100th anniversary with this sort of sideshow? Let it be an accomplished driver - please!! (Mears, Foyt, Big Al...)
10th April 2011, 07:15
ShiftingGears

Comes off as desperate and ridiculous, to be honest.
10th April 2011, 07:57
Mark in Oshawa

Mileman, they haven't had a real driver pace the 500 in years. Why would they start now?

Trump will get them some PR hits and he will promote his apperance. This is a sell out flat out, and if this series wasn't driven so far into the ditch, desperate measures wouldn't be required...
10th April 2011, 21:53
Jag_Warrior

Donald Trump: Making the world safer for narcissism... one sound bite at a time.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Trump will get them some PR hits and he will promote his apperance. This is a sell out flat out, and if this series wasn't driven so far into the ditch, desperate measures wouldn't be required...

This^^^

Attention: Donald craves it... Indy needs it.

Donald Trump was this country's (male) Paris Hilton before Paris Hilton was even born. He's been one of the world's great attention wh*res for decades now - and let's be honest: he's good at it. Love him or hate him, this series could learn a lot about business and branding from Trump. Heck, back in the 80's, he was the first "billionaire" to (really) be worth a couple hundred million. But I don't think the country could learn much from him about debt management. As a project manager, he rivals Roger Penske. But as a debt/risk manager, he looks more like Kevin Kalkhoven.

Who knows, maybe he'll enjoy himself enough in the pace car that he'll sponsor a car. As long as someone else will pay for the sponsorship and decals... he might do it. Plus The Donald is a really, really, really smart guy. Don't believe me? Just ask him. He'll tell ya! :p :
11th April 2011, 20:02
Nikki Katz

Trump's one of those people that's amusingly bad, I love the US version of The Apprentice for its sheer naffness, and cringe every time he talks (or yells). He's obviously talented or he wouldn't be a self-made billionaire after being bankrupted so many times, but the he does have a bit of a tendancy to concrete over things first and think later - he is currently trying to destroy a nature reserve in Scotland, which is part of why he's not overly loved in the UK.

I don't really care that he's driving the car at the 500, he probably paid quite a lot for it, and the series could do with some money. It'd be nice so see Andretti or someone in the car, but it's not like he's racing.
11th April 2011, 20:15
garyshell

The story I saw said something about him being taken aback when he found out he wasn't getting paid to show up. Typical for this butt wipe.

Gary
11th April 2011, 20:36
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by garyshell

The story I saw said something about him being taken aback when he found out he wasn't getting paid to show up. Typical for this butt wipe.

Gary

Wow!

Seriously?

That is deserving of such an Insult?

Do you have any idea how many appearance request a person like Donald Trump gets? Do you have any idea the value of his time?
You do realize that the IMS is a For Profit business don't you? An invite to a celeb for the Indy 500 is part of their marketing and their event. IMS will gain from it..why shouldn't he?
I am not a Fan of "the Donald" but to insult him for wanting to be paid for his "celebrity" is pretty silly and naive on your part.
11th April 2011, 20:39
anthonyvop

Quote:

Originally Posted by mileman

Trump is an idiot,

He is? So when you make your first $Billion.
11th April 2011, 21:40
garyshell

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyvop

I am not a Fan of "the Donald" but to insult him for wanting to be paid for his "celebrity" is pretty silly and naive on your part.

The only naiveté being exhibited here is your thinking that this is the only reason why I am calling him a butt wipe.

Gary
12th April 2011, 02:05
anthonyvop

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyshell

The only naiveté being exhibited here is your thinking that this is the only reason why I am calling him a butt wipe.

Gary

What other form of jealousy makes you feel that way?
12th April 2011, 04:36
garyshell

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

What other form of jealousy makes you feel that way?

So you think jealousy is the only reason why some folks have disdain for someone else? Maybe that's what drives you, but for me it's about his political B.S. among other things. Specifically, regarding his politics it's the birther crap. Beyond that it's his pompous attitude, as compared to folks like Warren Buffet and others who could buy and sell him out of pocket and who have a grounded self realization. Not that you really cared, you really only wanted to kick a little sand as usual. Yawn.

Gary
12th April 2011, 14:13
anthonyvop

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyshell

So you think jealousy is the only reason why some folks have disdain for someone else? Maybe that's what drives you, but for me it's about his political B.S. among other things. Specifically, regarding his politics it's the birther crap. Beyond that it's his pompous attitude, as compared to folks like Warren Buffet and others who could buy and sell him out of pocket and who have a grounded self realization. Not that you really cared, you really only wanted to kick a little sand as usual. Yawn.

Gary

So it is jealousy or do you just find it amusing to insult people who you disagree with politically?
12th April 2011, 16:14
garyshell

My, my, my someone is really struggling with some pretty simple English. Both questions were already answered.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

So it is jealousy

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyshell

So you think jealousy is the only reason why some folks have disdain for someone else? Maybe that's what drives you, but for me it's about his political B.S. among other things.

and

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

or do you just find it amusing to insult people who you disagree with politically?

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Beyond that it's his pompous attitude, as compared to folks like Warren Buffet and others who could buy and sell him out of pocket and who have a grounded self realization.

Somehow though, I think you already saw and just chose to ignore what had been previously written. Not really surprising.

Gary
12th April 2011, 17:58
anthonyvop

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyshell

My, my, my someone is really struggling with some pretty simple English. Both questions were already answered.

and

Somehow though, I think you already saw and just chose to ignore what had been previously written. Not really surprising.

Gary

So it is Jealousy then!!! Glad to have that cleared up.
12th April 2011, 18:42
Dr. Krogshöj

I envy Anthony's logic. If I had that, I could prove everything I wanted!
12th April 2011, 21:52
garyshell

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyvop

So it is Jealousy then!!! Glad to have that cleared up.

Thanks Anthony, you never fail to deliver a good laugh. Still struggling with the written word I see. But then again, giving you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you didn't even bother to read the reply again.

Whatever...

Gary
14th April 2011, 15:58
bugeyedgomer

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyshell

Except he will be wearing a helmet. My hope is in practice he spins the car out and doesn\'t have the balls to get back in it. What a tool. Why the hell is he in the car and not a former driver? This is the 100th anniversary. What does this blowhard jerk have to do with the 100th Anniversary?

Gary

calm down
This isnt the 100th anniversary; it is the 99th anniversary
27th April 2011, 16:26
Dr. Krogshöj

Seems like the pace car driver got what he wanted: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...h-certificate/
By the way, did President Obama accept the invitation to the Indy 500?
30th April 2011, 03:45
Jag_Warrior

Uh oh! See what happens when a man who lives in a glass house runs around throwing rocks? Looks like we may have a draft dodger in the Indy 500 pace car on Memorial Day weekend!
5th May 2011, 18:25
garyshell

Oh no he isn't!!! Dump the Trump worked:

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/aut...g-donald-trump

Gary
5th May 2011, 20:48
Dr. Krogshöj

You're fired! Anyway, a few more mentions of the Indy 500 in the mainstream media, so the whole excercise was executed perfectly. I wonder if starting the Facebook pressure group was in Randy's script as well?
6th May 2011, 00:32
Leo Krupe

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But on Thursday, Trump told IMS officials that as he considers running for president of the U.S., he thought it would be inappropriate to drive the pace car.

That's the biggest bunch of BS I've come across since the last time I ran through a cow pasture trying to tip over cows.
6th May 2011, 12:38
chuck34

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Originally Posted by Leo Krupe

That's the biggest bunch of BS I've come across since the last time I ran through a cow pasture trying to tip over cows.

Why is him stepping away for that reason BS? I completely agree with him, if he is going to run for President (and God I hope he does not), then it would most certainly be inappropriate for him to drive the pace car. With the election laws the way they are, IMS may have been forced to have every other candidate run a few laps in order to have "equal time". Besides all that, he's just an @ss. I agree with many that it should be a driver. Foyt, Mears, Unser Sr all spring to mind. I also saw someone suggest the oldest living winner. I have no idea who that is, any ideas?
6th May 2011, 13:27
Chris R

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck34

Foyt, Mears, Unser Sr all spring to mind. I also saw someone suggest the oldest living winner. I have no idea who that is, any ideas?

I think it is Jim Rathmann, there is a good chance Foyt is the second oldest winning driver now although it could be Parnelli.....

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