Apparently Sordo has signed for Prodrive during Rally GB.
He joins Meeke, so that settles that.
http://translate.google.com/translat...er-mini-i-2011
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Apparently Sordo has signed for Prodrive during Rally GB.
He joins Meeke, so that settles that.
http://translate.google.com/translat...er-mini-i-2011
Good for him..
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Originally Posted by Sulland
So once again Ford misses out on a top driver to replace hirvoslow.
What planet is Wilson On these days
Gutted for Petter but he was never gonna win on times as WRC is all driven too splits now and that is why it is so boring and will continue to be
I am happy for Sordo to find a team that really wants him for his talent. But I am unhappy that Find missed the oppertunity to kick Citroen's balls on tarmac with the Fiesta WrCar.
Nothing personal, but I think that Stobart would love to pay for Sordo being on the Stobart car instead of Wilson's son
if PG Andersson is to believed there won't be any STobatr Ford team next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Quote:
- Det låter som att Malcolm Wilson inte har något att komma med där. Han har inget klart med något andrateam, likt det man haft med Stobart, och då finns inget till mig. Men det är inget som är helt klart än, säger Andersson till eurosport.se
It sounds like malcom doesnt have anything to offer. Han havent managed to get a second team done and then there is nothing for me. But it is not 100% certain yet says PG to eurosport.se.
http://www.eurosport.se/rally/p-g-ak...10/story.shtml
Ok and what Andersson? http://www.eurosport.se/rally/p-g-ak...10/story.shtmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
So that the Mini team with Meeke, Andersson, Sordo and "Bosse"...?
A planet far away where denial is the main motto.Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Total domination from Citroën, good for them, they work hard for it and deserve it. they are real sportsmen and women in that team, and results speak for them. Congrats to double chevron team. :)
Great for Sordo , now he has no limitations ! Hopefully the Mini will be competitive
Sordo is fantastic asset to have in a team. This guy has a lot of knowledge of Citroën cars from the past years. David Richards is smart to hire him.Quote:
Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000
They can now benefit from him to develop their car further, together with Markko Martin and Kris Meeke those three drivers are a very complete package.
I see success very soon for Mini. :)
ROFL! :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
Yeah, real sportsmen and women! Unlike Ford, they have utilised incredibly ruthless team tactics (remember Rautenbach in Poland?) for many years. Versus the Ford, letting JML win in Sardinia back in 2009, etc.
Now these "real sportsmen" will kick out Dani Sordo, the real man behind Citroen's manufacturer world titles. A guy who has done terrible amount of work to gain more speed and shown unconditional integrity and obedience towards the team. The team's reward to him? "Sorry, you have no car in our team next season. Kthanxbye!"
I'm very happy for Sordo for having a go with Mini. :up:
Both Citroen and Ford have shown sport-killing tactics over the last years , so non of them are 100% sportsmen ;)
Here's proof ... France 2008
SS15
1.1S. LOEBM3:26:25.70.00.0
2.4F. DUVALM3:27:51.1+1:25.4+1:25.4
3.8J. LATVALAM3:28:23.8+32.7+1:58.1
4.3M. HIRVONENM3:29:55.3+1:31.5+3:29.6
SS16
1.1S. LOEBM3:42:58.00.00.0
2.3M. HIRVONENM3:46:22.7+3:24.7+3:24.7
3.4F. DUVALM3:46:29.6+6.9+3:31.6
4.8J. LATVALAM3:46:35.5+5.9+3:37.5
I dont think comment is neccesary ;)
I think you are right on a marketting side but thats it really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
On a sporting side Ogier happens to be faster than Sordo so a real sportsman team who wants to be the best they can takes whoever is the best, that's it. At least they paid Sordo to do HIS JOB.
You know what they say in Finland:
Elämä on!
Rahalla ei saa onnea ja menestystä, pitää ne rahat osata käyttääkin...
(That's life ! You cannot buy luck and success with money you have to know how to use the money)
:D
You know what car was the last car Prodrive and Markko Martin developed together?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
2008 Impreza, the one with huge grip/handling problems on low-grip surfaces which nobody ever found a solution to. Even Østberg prefers to drive the 2007 Impreza on these surfaces over it.
Makes me rather skeptical about Prodrive Mini.
That said Sordo is the best available choice for them, he's faster than PG, by a lot on tarmac and probably even on gravel and has tons of experience. Only other comparable choice would be Solberg, but neither him nor Prodrive want to work together anymore. Can't really blame Solberg for that, telling them for 3 years that the car is bad, to be mostly ignored in the end.
Markko did not develop the car. He was testing it after it was developed. He was called in to help, because this car was born dead. Get your facts right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ridder
Thanks, didn't know that. Nevertheless it doesn't seem he could help.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Andersson is out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
What? I've never seen the two go head to head in similar performance car. A manu C4 is faster than a SX4, can't count that one-off with Stobart.Quote:
Originally Posted by ridder
Turan was faster on some stages.. Bad mistake for Turan when turned to Stobart..
Damn straight. And Loeb also won the championship last year because of Sordo. Sordo would've easily won Spain last year and stopped on the last stage of day 2 to let Loeb take the lead and then backed right off on day 3. Without those extra 2 points Hirvonen would've won the title. You didn't see Ford holding back Latvala in Italy to ensure Hirvonen won as all Wilson is concerned about is the manufacturer's title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
I hope Sordo finally gets the wins he deserves with Mini.
Im happy for Dani, maybe now he will be allowed to win a rally!
The guy can obviously drive, but hes always been driving Seb's car. Im sure there are little changes he would have linked to be incorperated to the C4 to suit him if he was the team leader.
Now with Prodrive/Mini, I think his greatest battle will be with communication as we all know his english isnt the best, not a great thing for an english speaking team (presumably).
So guys, is Sordos´deal confirmed officially? :confused:
No, thought that. :s mokin:
Let´s wait and see.
Nothing wrong with him and he deserves a drivers seat next year, for sure. But the question is where.
Sordo definitely deserves a drive, I think Ford would benefit a lot if they would hire him :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
If Sordo goes to MINI then we can defiantly see KIMI going with MONSTER
no duh..
I wonder if many people out there and here see this as being the truth?! If it wasn't for Dani supporting Seb in the rallyes, being the number two driver, helping clinch the world titles for the team on so so so many occasions then some are really stupid. What Citroen have done to him is ruthless and appalling!Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
I watched Dave's coverage of Wales GB and Ogier was being interviewed. He was wearing the official team colors looking smug and like a wa#ker. He's a twit IMHO and for this I dislike them. Yes it has proven to us and Ford that they are champions, they have a machine that can do it and another machine, sorry driver who can win. Yes good luck to them in 2011 but it will come bite them in the a$$ later down the track or stage (haha). Sordo I see as a future champion. Ogier a clone of what was....
what will happen with Citroen then? If Kimi goes to Monster?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Only one team with the Sebs?
Or two teams with the Sebs+Petter+?
It seems there is a lot of PR nonsense from yesterday that said Kimi wants to stay with Citreon after his 8th place in WalesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
For me the situation will be that:
CITROEN TOTAL: Séb Loeb / Séb Ogier
PSWRT: Petter Solberg
CITROEN JUNIOR TEAM: Kimi Raikkonen
BP FORD ABU DHABI: Mikko Hirvonen / JM Latvala
STOBART: Wilson / ??
MUNCHI'S: VILLAGRA (?)
MONSTER FORD: Block / Atkinson (wait for decisions in January)
MINI PRODRIVE: Meeke / Sordo?
MINI CUSTOMERS: Ostberg (?) / Boland (?)
It's gonna be interesting, tho...
It will be Seb and SebQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
Highly doubt a junior team... Who will that be Petter and Kimi?
I don't think so.
Rumors were that Red Bull are dropping sponsorship with Citroen and surely with Kimi too. So Monster Energy could pick up Kimi and team up with Block again.
Monster could go with MINI or stay with Ford but if Dani will go MINI they have their second driver! Meeke and Sordo.
CITROEN TOTAL: Séb Loeb / Séb Ogier
PSWRT: Petter Solberg
CITROEN JUNIOR TEAM: No Team
BP FORD ABU DHABI: Mikko Hirvonen / JM Latvala
STOBART: Wilson / H Solberg
MUNCHI'S: VILLAGRA (?)
MONSTER FORD: Block / Atkinson / Kimi
MINI PRODRIVE: Meeke / Sordo
MINI CUSTOMERS: Ostberg
Well, it still looks that Sordo for Mini is 99% confirmed. They have very good driver package to develop and also to compete for the titles in WRC (the best test drivers, very good team player and super-fast Meeke).
And M-sport is going to earn big time next year. Most probably we can see Kimi, Block, Villagra, Atkinson and maybe Ketomaa, Henning and Andersson+Wilslow as well in Fiesta WRC (In addition to Jari and Mikko)-exactly ten cars like they promised!
Citroen meanwhile looks to loose his main sponsor and all major pay-drivers. They have also lost 50% of their tarmac forces and they have only Ogier whose tarmac driving can be compared to those guys whom NOT calls useless nobodies (well, he has crashed in approximately 50% of tarmac rounds and he has finished on the podium only once with the car that is the most superior on the tarmac). They have also guy called Quensel whose management has led to superior 1,2,3 retirement in 24 h Le Manse race, loss of manufacturers and drivers titles in IRC, some stupid comments which even Peugeot dealers think are ridiculous.. pretty successful CV.. what next?.
For me, it seems that year 2011 will be the season with highest number of question-marks since 2003 and 2004 when Mäkinen, McRae, Burns, Sainz and Panizzi stopped their active participation in WRC.
BP FORD ABU DHABI: Mikko Hirvonen / JM Latvala ..... no K Al Qassimi who brings the Abu Dhabi oil money?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
If Red Bull see nothing anymore in Kimi Raikkonen, then why will they sponsor his Peugot 207 S2000 in Rallye Monte Carlo 2011?
Maybe, the Stobart team not in WRC 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/...21242925653909
CITROEN TOTAL: Séb Loeb / Séb Ogier / Petter Solberg
Citroen Junior Team: Kimi?
BP FORD ABU DHABI: Mikko Hirvonen / JM Latvala / PG Andersson?
MUNCHI'S FORD: F VILLAGRA / H Solberg
MONSTER FORD: K Block / Ch Atkinson?
MINI PRODRIVE: Meeke / Sordo
MINI CUSTOMERS: Ostberg / Kimi?
Ostberg and Adapta confirms Fiesta Wrc 2011 program : http://bit.ly/9zgESl
Østberg will be driving a Fiesta wrc next year, not a Mini!
Adapta WRT said this in a press release today.
i see eammon Boland mentioned as a Mini customer i belive the only reason that may be due to his strong links with prodrive over the past few years.
But realistly if that were to happen all you may see of eammon is the odd european round and maybe the irish tarmac championship.but i belive this rumour may have came from an irish forum.but that rumour is more or less dead
Show me, sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Yeh and him, woops.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
http://translate.google.com/translat...icle803769.ece
PG not so positive ...