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Well it'll be interesting in terms of racing at least.......
Pirelli...???? Mmm, and their famously non grippy tyres. Just how do they keep getting these contracts?
well, thats why I was hoping for Michelin, but if pirellis turn out to be rubbish, we could have races like the recent canadian gp, and we can see who can last the most on turd tyres
What do you mean IF?Quote:
Originally Posted by IronRooster92
I see what you mean. For example, when Pirelli was annouced as single supplier in world superbike, teams were negative about it, saying how pirelli were inferior to Michelin and Dunlop. Then there's the case with the wrc. in the years of michelin/bf goodrich vs pirelli, 99% of the time, michelin smoked pirelli.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
F1 could be diffrent for pirelli, but last time they were in it, again there tyres were not exactly the best.
They were cheaper than Michelin...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Hopefully we'll return to the tyre wars in a couple of years, though I'm cautiously optimistic about Pirelli. I can't imagine they'll get the tyres that wrong (see: Indy 2005), and maybe tyres that degrade a bit faster are exactly what F1 needs?
Rubbish. It should never just be about cost when it comes to tyres. Michelin make better tyres than Pirelli.Quote:
Originally Posted by christophulus
[quote="Daniel"]Rubbish. It should never just be about cost when it comes to tyres. Michelin make better tyres than Pirelli.[/quo
I agree 100%
Indeed,although I belive Pirelli don't mind a tire war starting in 2013, by then, hopefully, economic markets will be better and teams won't mind spending money on tyres, so control tyres are not a bad thing for now, although i really hope we return to an open tyre formula in a couple of yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
As long as they do not fall apart who gives a rat's a--! It will be the same for everyone. So what if they are several seconds slower than Bridgestone. It might mean more passing and better racing for all we know, now.
Back in 2004 I think it was, Pirelli had MAJOR problems with tyres falling apart (and I mean properly falling apart!!!!!) because it was a couple of degrees warmer in some of the rallies than they predicted. Do you REALLY want this sort of company supplying tyres to Formula 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
No, we don't, but at least this time around - unlike the late 80's early 90's when Pirelli were last in F1, it is the same for all teams.
All that will happen is teams will be forced to make more pit stops, and as we know from Canada, that makes for great races.
Interesting that the FIA, McLaren and Ferrari preferred a supply of Michelins, according to James Allen.
So everyone has **** tyres. Yay!
Or, look at it from another prespective;Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Every race will be infinately more exciting with many pitstops due to rapidly degrading tyres. Yay! :)
I don't often agree with the use of the p word. But the word pinnacle should apply in F1 when it comes to tyres
Go Pirelli, show everyone what italians can do :p :
Fingers crossed Pirelli won't make a hash of the control tyres
We already know what they can do... :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNPTlT8HXjk
Pirelli and Ferrari, fits like a glove.
I wonder ....
Oooh the round black bits are going to have a different word written on them next year. :D
I'll wait and see what hapens.
Apparently it's going to cost Pirelli absolutely nothing to supply tyres.
http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/06/24/the-cost-of-f1-will-be-zero-claims-pirelli-boss/Quote:
At the end of the day for us, the cost, taking into account all items, will be zero compared to our budget. The advertising campaign which is linked to F1 will be switched from other races where we reduce our presence. First of all for rallying, where there are new rules starting next year. We were the only supplier, and there will be starting next year different suppliers, so we will definitely reduce and will move these investments to F1. We will reduce our budget on other races, and we will be fully dedicated to F1.
Oh come on Pino, as a person who loves Italian cars even I wouldn't be so silly to say that! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
That's because you only love Italian cars, while I love everything about Italy :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I like a lot of Italian things! I like the wine, I think you've got nice wimmin and there's a certain Italian who always puts a smile on my face whenever I've met him :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
Why you no pick Galli? :angryfire :D
You call that great races?Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Luckily you didn't call it great racing! :s
We saw it a couple of hours ago what 11 Italians can do! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
Or were you talking about the 110% public debt?! :p
You mean like the national squad? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
WTF you talking about? He was talking of course of the corrupt PM :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Would you buy tyres for your car which are crap but have yellow writing on?Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I hope that Pirelli have insisted that their racing tyres have to reflect the quality of their road tyres. This means writing component failure - the ridiculous situation of having to change tyres after five laps for example - OUT.
It was a pity that they did not persuade the FIA to eliminate the compulsory use of two compounds in a race.
Of course it would have been better to allow competition and have different teams sign up with different tyre manufacturers as they have done with engines.
Either Pirelli or Michelin would have been fine with me - at least it was not some ridiculous sounding non-traditional tyre company such as "Kuhmo" !
Kuhmo aren't a tyre brand. Pirelli road tyres aren't really that great.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
Kuhmo is indeed a brand - their tyres are available in the US and they were mentioned as possible suppliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Pirelli have the same reputation as Michelin and Continental for example - but for me to have the return of such an Italian name that is synonymous with motor racing trumps everything.
I am a traditionalist and love Italy to bits because there is no other nation that could have produced drivers such as Brambilla or Varzi ir Regga [yes I know he supposedly Swiss!!!] or Andretti or Monza or the mille miglia and most of all Ferrari!
Believe me - one trip for anyone that loves racing to Italy and you will fall in love with the country and the people :D
Ciou!
Considering that Pirelli's GT tyres of recent years have been pretty good so I'll reserve judgment until the tyres are actually on the cars.
Damn it, ive nothing against Pirelli but I was really hoping after BS left that the single tyre BS (pun intended) would stop, but same s..t, different name.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by V12
Remember the days when teams could not only run with any tyre manufacture that was willing but also were able to optimise through having a different size of rim if warranted and could even put different compounds on each wheel specific for each track.
Now THAT is grand prix racing at its finest.
The current garbage is not only boring and stupid but also extremely UNformula One like.
Of course the most ridiculous thing is having commentators get all excited over changing tyres in 4 seconds and PASSING someone, not overtaking on track, but in the pits.
Sad.
They could have TEN grands prix in the US and have as many American drivers on the grid as there are Germans now - American interest in f1 would remain less than that in sychronized swimming.
And we know the reason why.
Tyres are one of the key instruments in the excitement of races, so I hope Pirelli will either mistakenly or knowingly design tyres, which perform like the Bridgestones did at Montreal for the majority of the season. :D In their previous stint in F1 they certainly knew, how to design highly competitive qualifying tyres, which last only for a few laps.
Q: will Pirelli be as good as Bridgestone tyres
(how much technology went in to making the tyre last the compleate race that is still used in the tyres this year) ?
Initially, I'm guessing that they won't be. Bridgestone/Firestone has SO many more years of experience producing tires for high speed, hard cornering open wheel cars. But in time, maybe Pirelli will be able to produce robust enough tires so that nothing unexpected (and dangerous) happens during races. As long as there is not unpredictable wear causing blowouts, leading to serious accidents (and injuries), it'll be OK... I guess. Still, I'm thinking that Bridgestone will be missed, at least for awhile. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong and we won't even notice the transition.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt
so long as they´re black, round and don´t burst... I doubt anybody will notice the transition to another single supplier :p