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She looks nice in red. :D
It's odd that there are three bumps in the cover. You would expect one at the rear for the rear wing, one for the roll hoop, and thats it. Atleast thats my opinion.
Anyone thinking the same thing?
It looks like to me that this was done on purpose to better disguise the shape of the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
I am betting that the car is sitting at a 30 degree angle, so the first bump is the front tire with another located directly below it in the photo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
Plus I bet that last bump is more of a fin than a wing
Really excited to see this. Tomorrow, right?
I think you nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gofastandwynn
Gary
the more i think about it, the more i would love to see competition among the manufacturers. this spec racing is far too controlled by the IRL and has lead to some boring racing. here's hoping although i don't hold out too much hope
OK, these were renderings that were up on a indy blog then were taken down.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/...6d250fbe_o.jpg
Here is a quote from Graham's twitter account:
GaryQuote:
GrahamRahal: Had a great dinner with the designers of the new delta wing indycar! Saw the design, this will without a doubt be what rejuvenates indycar!
I don't thnk that's it ....look at the mockup that's covered with the red drape.... Clearly there are two front tires seperTed from the chassis
And interesting that young Rahal is having dinner with folks from gannasi racing.....
While I do hope so, if you look at the lines around the rear wheels are pretty close to that the tarp shows, so I am betting it is not far offQuote:
Originally Posted by Ken
I also think it's close .... But not quit
hard to be sure of a hell of a lot with that big red tarp over it, particularly since there are clearly brackets or stands that are there and not part of the car at all. That said, the right 2/3rds of the car does look a lot like the CG models shown. And as far as the CG mockups, I like them. Kind of funny to me how they were apparently told "3 wheels is not a racecar", so they just said "fine", and took that front wheel and split it into 2 wheels just ever so slightly apart. It's a cool looking car that, while it may be full of engineering issues I as a layman am not aware of, I think it has a fresh and powerful design to it that would appeal to a casual racing fan.
As far as Rahal/Ganassi, I find it hard to believe that he's not in the process of working some deal out with them. He was in Minnesota (home of Target) last month for a "corporate business meeting" that he denied was Target. And now he was specifically invited by someone inside Bowlby/TCG to get an early view of the Delta design today, and will probably be there for the unveiling tomorrow. Someone earlier said RLR could come back. I can imagine Graham doing regular series races with RLR, and Indy and a race or two with TCG. Hard to turn that down.
idk how I get so lost but first thing I heard of this delta wing thing was on Grahams twitter. Is a new wing that will be on all cars this year?
How is this delta wing stuff tied to TCG?
With that short front axle, how in the world is that thing gonna get through a tight hairpin ?
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Originally Posted by ChicagocrewIRL
I posted the exact thing on another forum....
plus.....picture the tracy/helio melee at toronto last year.... no way that car is racy in the same fashion...
mix in young rahals comments via twitter.....i just dont see a racer who has literally spent his entire life in AOWR lokking at that car and making the statement he did...
Well, 3-point turns around hairpins will prove interesting.
They certainly must be joking. 2 skinny tires set close together just doesn't look like the hot set up for anything with turns. Can you spell "understeer"? Indy isn't Bonneville.
Dumbest race car design I have ever seen for anything with turns. It looks like a single seater sidecar. They must REALLY want to kill open wheel racing.
But if the tarp is any indication, the actual mockup has a much shorter wheelbase and much wider front track. Perhaps some sanity prevailed.
This it "it"???
this rendering is massvie bull.
if GR really thinks this rejuvinates something he should be banned from open wheel (go figure..) for life. sorry.
this looks like a crossbreed from a F-106 with a Top Fuel... each in itself quite awe aspiring but this "contraption" is a waste...of everything.
so i strongly believe that under the red sheed is something more evolved than the rendering. just has to be. If this is going to be indycar, i will leave for good.
thats me always saying it is not the cars but the drivers that make or break success... in this case I would make an exception.
Thanks for posting the "red car cover" photo. I didn't realize the car was going to be publicly revealed this week. Given how unattractive and/or impractical the previously posted Dallara deisgns/renderings have been, I'm curious about what the full-size mock up will look like.
We don't know much more than we did before. The pic that we did see of the narrow arrow car was just a red herring I suspect. No one serious would put that thing anywhere but Bonneville....
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Originally Posted by Ken
You are making a HUGE assumption that the designs he saw were the same as those pictures. There is no way that those pictures are the Delta Wing design. Someone is having a really good laugh that a bunch of suckers actually fell for the joke.
Gary
I didn't Gary....and I doubt anyone who was really honest would either...
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I think you are right, but with all the hubub raised in this thread it APPEARS folks are talking those renderings seriously.
Gary
No effin way that design would ever get the green light for any type of circuit race car. Of course they did hire a bullrider to run the show, so there's plenty of bull being flung around. I hear they are trying to decide who's gonna be the next series spokeperson, Gary Breedlove or Art Arfons. ;)
Delta Wing Website and Countdown
In the photo on this site, you can easily see the wheel base is much wider then those so apparent computer generated images.
Speed says that is really the car - it's hideous.
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Originally Posted by garyshell
Sometimes it's rather difficult to convey sarcasm in written words without the benefit of voice inflections and facial expressions.
No one who has any clue about the sport would take those drawrings :) seriously.
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-wing-project/Quote:
Originally Posted by vintage
Gadzooks!!! sadly I think you may be right. Give me the Swift designs over the Dallara and this monstrosity any day. GAG GAG GAG
haha, i like the look of the 3D models, and now it turns out the real prototype design looks identical. Apparently it's controversial, which is a good thing imo. More than you can say about the bland indy car designs of the last 20 years which for the most part you can barely tell apart, certainly look identical to more casual fans. I do like the Swift design with the lighting indicators and the variable bodywork, but in its own way this design could be pretty cool. It's good as even those that dislike a new design are talking about the car and the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagocrewIRL
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"sorry you are too late" LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
Gary.......do ever actually read what people write before you argue with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
So now we have 'crapwagons' and from 2012 we have 'peniswagons'? This Delta Wing car is really ugly in my opinion. It sure is radical though.
Hope that's NOT it - now way the darn think will turn !!! Road course ? Fuggetabouit.Quote:
Originally Posted by gofastandwynn
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Originally Posted by Ken
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Originally Posted by garyshell
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Originally Posted by Ken
I read EXACTLY what you wrote above. Please tell me how what you wrote was NOT assuming that what Graham Rahal saw was the same as the renderings posted.
But now it appears that the joke is on all of us and the leaked renderings are the actual car. Yikes! I don't see how the front wheels can steer. Looks like a salt flats car to me.
Gary
Does anyone have pics or links from the Chicago Auto Show unveiling ?
THIS Delta Wing Car IS NOT AN INDYCAR. All the heritage and logical evolution of IndyCar design IMO DOES NOT go this direction. Keep this design in ALMS or sports car racing. GAG GAG GAG.
never mind got the links from pressdog
It is that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Here is an interview with the designer:
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-wing-project/
The ideas behind it are great: better mileage and fewer parts. But really, 33 of these things together will look slightly ridiculous.
I also wonder how much the other closed wheel designs archieve these goals.