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Bahrain 2010 will feature 4 WC competing in the same GP, if Kimi had secured a drive, this would be 5. This is fairly rare, the record seems to be in South Africa 1968, where 5 champions did line up: Clark, G. Hill, Brabham, Surtees and Hulme. Sadly this was to be Clark's final GP.
At the other extreme, 1959 featured no champions competing, as Hawthorn chose to retire.
4 champions is very cool IMO.
I suppose it's just a function of how open the previous seasons have been. I would put 1959 (and most of the 1958 races come to think of it) down to the fact that Fangio pretty much owned the previous decade, same in 2007 when we only had one world champ (Alonso) racing thanks to Schuey's half decade of dominance.
In the 1960s nobody retained their title (well except Brabham who was defending a '59 title), and only Brabham, Clark and Hill won the thing twice in that decade.
Several races in 1970 featured five World Champions: Brabham, Hill, Hulme, Stewart and Surtees.
Very true, although sadly by the 1970s Hill and Surtees were well past their best (kind of makes you appreciate how awesome Brabham's 1970 season was). Whereas in 1968 SA all five could have been considered to have been competitive, two at Lotus, two at Brabham, while Surtees had dragged the Honda to victory at the back end of '67.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitesse
The good thing about 2009 is that all four of the world champions should be in contention. We had four champions too in 1999 but Hill and Villeneuve were pretty much consigned to the midfield that year.
Quite true: Somehow I missed Big John still racing in 1970. Maybe 2011 will see 5 champions again, if Shuey returns and Kimi gets a ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitesse
It's also interesting that in the last four F1 seasons we have had four different WDC's - quite different to what we were used to during MS's domination (last time, we had 4 different champs in a row, was 1995-1998). But will we get a fifth different in a row in 2010? Who could that be? Schumacher? Vettel? Massa?
How many seasons have seen a team fielding a world champion in both of their cars?
1967 saw Clark and Graham Hill line up for Team Lotus; this continued for the first race in 1968. Prost and Senna raced for McLaren in 1989. Farina and Ascari both raced Ferraris in 1953. There may be other instances of one off races particularly at Ferrari, but these are the three seasons that come to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
1953 - Farina and Ascari - Ferrari
1967 & 68 - Clark and Hill - Lotus
1970 - Brabham and Hulme - Brabham
1986 - Prost and Rosberg - McLaren
1989 - Prost and Senna - McLaren
2010 - Button and Hamiton - McLaren
2011 - Massa and Alonso - Ferrari :D
I think you'll find Denny left Brabham at the end of his Championship year in 1967 ...
I think you might be right somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitesse
The reference is to world champions at the time, (or past), not a future champ. Keke Rosberg was WC in 1982, not in 1986 when he partnered Prost at McLaren.
I don't see your point. In 1986 Prost was the reigning champion and Rosberg had won in 1982. That made them both world champions driving for the same team.Quote:
Originally Posted by D28
My apologies: Of course you and Rollo are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Wow. :eek: I can predict the future!Quote:
Originally Posted by D28
I guess that means that Massa was the 2010 World Champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
In the 1978 Austrian Grand Prix 8 of the starting 26 drivers had won or would win the world championship, and 21 would win at least one grand prix. Pretty solid grid.
Pretty solid teams also.
mmm, I think it's quite evident that Massa blew his only real shot of winning the championship in 2008, I think he probably knows it too which is why he's still so bitter about the whole thing - you got beaten fair and square Felipe, bitching about it wont help you. As or 2010 I can't see Massa even being a serious challenge to Alonso over the span of the season within the Ferrari team, how that plays out in the championship will go down to where Ferrari are pace wise when the season starts - don't try and judge anything from testing teams, Ferrari have already admitted they were running "2009" fuel loads at the first test - ie. light!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Nothing changes. Jack Brabham called his autobiography "When the flag drops": the rest of the phrase is "the b**ls**t stops".Quote:
Originally Posted by philipbain
In that case there's even a possibility for six champions, if a driver wins his first championship this year (Vettel, Massa, Webber, Rosberg or Kubica for example).Quote:
Originally Posted by D28