On the red button, Rubens signs for williams and confirmed as team mate to Nico Haukenberg.
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On the red button, Rubens signs for williams and confirmed as team mate to Nico Haukenberg.
Not online yet but will be soon im sure
That doesn't make a ton of sense for either party involved ..I wonder how that came to be :s
this has been aroud for a few weeks if nico rosberg went to brawn gp then it would be rubens to williams
On Euro News they showed Massa talking and Rubens arriving and unveiling his Brazilian Grand Prix helmet design - they did not confirm a Williams contract but just that it is speculation.
Until Rubens or Williams say so it is not a fact yet.
Just because you haven't seen it doesn't it mean its not true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
But it is Sky News, and they always rush to break the news, sometimes forsaking accuracy. However I doubt they would get the name of the team or driver wrong LOL.
If it is true, I wonder how Rubens will handle it mentally.
He seems a bit of a soft character who needs mental support and Williams is not known for baby-sitting their drivers like that.
But would be good to see him continue in F1 for a few more years.
I think it's mostly due to the Mercedes connection. Otherwise it makes no sense at all!
Too many pieces of the jigsaw are still missing. Will Jenson stay on at Brawn? Will Kimi go to McLaren?
Until those drivers are confirmed in their seats (or to be leaving) the smaller players will just have to sit on their hands and wait.
For my money, if Williams lost Nico Rosberg to Brawn, Rubens would be a good choice. He has a reputation as a driver who can set up a car quickly - which could help Nico Hulk move into F1 quickly. You don't want a newbie like the Hulk trying to lead the team, or worse get Button as a team mate who seems clueless about setup.
The issue is not whether or not it is true, it might be or not, we have no way of knowing until Rubens or Williams makes a statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
Now if you wish to BELIEVE it, thats up to you but that does not change the reality - absent evidence it remains speculation.
An experienced driver like Jenson I am sure understands a significant amount about a racing car - he has driven enough problematic cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
But in the end it is irrelevant because thatis what the engineers are for and it has never prevented a good driver from winning.
The important issue is the ability of a driver to communicate the handling of a car to his engineer, have it remedied and improve.
We know that Raikkonen has no interest in the technical side and how much interest Jenson has is enoough to win and currently heading for a world title.
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Originally Posted by Saint Devote
If Jenson understand so much how come he can't provide the feedback to make those poor cars better?
Well, not that many pieces. Jenson will stay and Nico will join Brawn and Kimi McL. The question is who gets to pick... If its Kimi then Nico will be at Brawn. If its Lewis then Nico will be at McL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
Note: Nico doesnt get to pick at all :)
Nobody could have made the last 2 Honda's fast (massively flawed concept and no technical leadership from within the team) and the 01 Benetton went from being as slow as a Minardi to finishing on the podium, but that was more Mike Gascoine than the two drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
When ever these claims about Button come up Ross Brawn's comment earlier this season springs to mind: "The guys in the team told me Jenson was exceptional – I didn't see a lot of it last year, but now I believe them.”Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Okay but he would say that. Anyway...I've not read this Rubens news anywhere else yet so has Sky jumped the gun or got genuine inside info?
If this is indeed true, I wonder whether it's Rubens' own choice to leave Brawn or he has to make way for another driver? I guess Nico Rosberg, because I don't think Brawn can really afford to pay Kimi his salary.
Fisi did manage a points-scoring result early in the season (under the old system when only the top-6 scored) and when both drivers managed to finish the race, GF was 9-0 vs Jenson. Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper
How many times this season have we heard the statement, "Jenson reverted to Rubens setup"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
No idea. It would be interesting to see how many (linked) quotes there are to that effect, if any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
In any case, that's what team work is all about. If the Brawn drivers are working closely together as a team to get the car the best it can be then it's likely that JB will have reverted to RB's setup, and visa versa, on many occasions. One driver may find a "tweak" that works for him and, if the team are sharing data, the other driver will try that same "tweak". What works for one driver may, or may not, work for the other.
More importantly...has anyone else got this announcement apart from Sky?
http://www.nusport.nl/formule-1/2100...-williams.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
From a Dutch news site, who received the news from TV Globo in Brazil, where Luciano Burti interviewed Barrichello on the matter, and confirmed he will be in a Williams in 2010. Nothing official yet, but it has been announced on Autosport too, few weeks ago.
Only a matter of time I guess.
He sure did drive in bad cars and his performance was abysmal, this only points to him being pants when it comes to sorting out a car. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
That's certainly one conclusion that can be drawn, but it's not the "only" one. If only it were as simple as Driver X is rubbish at car setup, where as Driver Y is a genius. The driver contribution is a part of it, but just a part.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
oh rubinho. still stands a chance of being world champion, and has to go to another team. My guess is Riss has carefully explained the situation with brawn, mercedes and rosberg, and rubens has got the hint and done something to help brawn-must be a case of no rosberg no mercs.
Fair play to rubens he knows his time is up there, but i feel sorry for him and feel old barry is just as good as Rosberg. I think we can all agree that the Brawn will be a lot better than the williams next year-but im sure Rubens will do himself proud.
Sucks for Rubens.
Williams aren't going anywhere next year.
I'll be surprised if Williams are around in the next 5 years.
To me it's just plain bad vibes to win a WCC and then ditch a guy who got you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
I suspect your not all that familliar with the NFL. However I can think of a similar anallogy.
Afew years back the Baltimore Ravens won the Superbowl. So what do they do?
They bad vibe the team by releasing, or trading Trent Green the quarterback.
He never was considered to be a world beater, but he did it.
That's just plane bad vibes bro
So what happened to Baltimore the next season?
In the words of Dennis Hopper:
Bad things man Bad things :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:..... :s mokin:
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Go ahead, come up with a reasonable one too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Rubens won't be around for more than one or maximum two seasons either.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
I think its time Rubens retired and let the new guys have a go.
Yes, why not? He had a competitive car and gave it his all for the championship. Rubens should quit and hold his head up high while he's ontop, rather than next season when Williams will be struggling to get into Q2. I also don't want to see Rubens turn into another David Coulthard at the end of an otherwise illustrious career. God, I still get chills when I think of DC in that RB4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuartf12007
I'm with you Ioan. Starting out at Haywood where the team gave the driver the car and said "drive it" didn't exactly set him up for life in terms of being able to develop a good setup and it looks like he hasn't learnt anything along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
If it's true its certainly an odd combination.
Rubens seems like one of the least suited drivers to Williams in the field.
Even if that were the case it is irrelevant - it is not preventing him being the most successful driver in 2009 - and unlike Schumacher he has not tried to cheat his way to winning by using his car as a missile projected at his rival and, unlike the German driver has not been thrown out of a championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I'd support Jenson any day before the driver from Kerpen.
And in a bad car Button's performance was far from abysmal - Jenson Button finished THIRD in the 2004 championship in the BAR Honda and for most of the year he qualified well including a pole position at Imola [with his teammate Sato over a second slower] - where was Schumacher then? SECOND of the grid BEHIND Button in a FERRARI!!!
Must have just enraged you no end as you are normally all bent out of shape and angry and rude anyway.
I think you will be surprised then - on several occassions Williams has been written off.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Totally agree, he should have announced his retirement a few races ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
I personally hoped he would win the WDC this year, and retire. People should always go out on a high note, not when they are at the back of the grid - and sadly that is where he will be in the Williams. It will be sad to watch.
Wackos on this board for suggesting Rubens hang it up. He's still capable of winning and, if the early reports are true, he's set to quadruple his 2090 salary in 2010, from 2 million to 8 million.
Not many people would head to retirement under those circumstances.
Who said the 2004 BAR was bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
I simply don't think it's as simple as Driver X is rubbish at car setup, where as Driver Y is a genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Look at Brawn this year. If Button is leading the championship by using Barrichello's set ups why hasn't Rubens produced the same results over the course of the year? They're (allegedly) his setups so surely he should be the Brawn driver with the advantage.