It appears Danica is looking toward staying with AGR......
http://www.versus.com/nw/article/vie...uce_martin.tpl
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It appears Danica is looking toward staying with AGR......
http://www.versus.com/nw/article/vie...uce_martin.tpl
Eagle Eye?
Youhave been insistant that 'Danica: The Brand' is signed sealed and delivered to NASCAR
Do still maintain that to be the case?
He'll find some what to walk away from it and still maintain his "Insider" status.
Honestly, I don't really care for Dancia, but it would be a bad idea for her to go to NASCAR. Yes she would get paid more, but she's run notably better this year and is on the cusp of being able to compete for race wins and should be better positioned at AGR next year if the team has less drama and tension and drivers with more setup skill like Franck Montagny. If she goes to NASCAR she'll have a year in the Nationwide series and even then I doubt she'll be a primary driver with one of the big teams, and she'll be lucky to have a Casey Mears kind of career
I called months ago that she wasn't going anywhere...it just makes NO sense. Too many things don't add up. AGR is the best team in need of her money in any series including drag racing and indy lights. It's painfully obvious she has zero talent and therefore making a NASCAR transition is way out of the question. If she or anybody else can't see that then they are just plain as incompetent as she is setting up a car. I truly can't see her driving for Chip because she can't compete for a championship and she can't sniff the top 20 on road courses on a regular basis. Chip isn't going to run at the back over half the races and not have both his cars near the front. I think and have thought his flirtation with the no talent one has been an effort to drive up Mikey's offer and ultimately render them much less competitive due to finances.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDS
She stays at AGR and they likely try for 4 cars and SHOULD run 3 if they were smart. With Marco and Danica, they stand no chance of getting to the front and competing for race wins regularly. I'm past believing TK is a master at setting up a car also but he does have the talent. They need developement input to supplement him and they need to throw anything Danica and Marco have out the window. They could improve slightly for next year but doubtful...other teams will likely keep getting stronger too.
I think one part of her quote is telling "There have been no contracts that have been put out there". While her brand managers have been touting how valuable she would be in NASCAR and some fans are suggesting she should go here or there, it is all about teams making contract offers. It sounds like she has 1 - AGR. If she doesn't go for that, she might be left standing when the music stops.
With Harvick making noise about wanting to leave RCR, I'm surprised Childress wouldn't try to pick up this little hot shoe, speed demon. I mean, she only very recently admitted that she might need to spend some time in the Nationwide Series. Before that, she believed that she could leap right into a Nextel Cup car and be right where she needed to be. Just because Montoya, Franchitti, Speed, Hornish and Allmendinger had to spend some time in lower stock car formulas, that didn't mean that she would need to. Cause, afterall, she's The Danica... and she's just awesome like that. :rolleyes:
I want her to go to NASCAR so bad I can taste it. And for the fans that want her to stick with the IRL, that's OK - cause she'd be right back in an IRL car within 6-12 months. I wish I could sell her ass for what she thinks she's worth and buy her back for her actual value (as a pure racer, not a bikini model/PR freak show). I could start my own F1 team and fund it for years on the interest alone.
IndyCar/F1/NASCAR: Where Will Danica Patrick Race In 2010 ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Indexed: Fri Jun 26, 2009 @ 01:15:09PM 1 month 3 weeks ago
Here we go again.... Rumors continue to swirl around swimsuit model Danica Patrick, and where she might be headed to race for 2010 and beyond.
^above is my favorite opening so far from an on-line article.....
I maintain she is signed, sealed and gone to NASCAR. AR will be a two-three car team.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDS
There are some things going on with Honda and the IRL to try and get her to "change" he mind.
I have been wanting to do a "silly season" post, but at there is a lot going at the momment.
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Originally Posted by EagleEye
Thanks EE.... I always apreciate your straight forwardness
http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/200...ing-to-nascar/
^ above is an interesting article.....it was writen a few months back... and probably read by a few of you.....
anywhoos.... the 'wheres danica:the brand land' game should come to an end soon....I hope so anyhow... as i suspect there are other racers who need to find solid rides for 2010 and danica is likely the domino that sets things in motion
I'd like to point out that as a swimsuit model...she's only popular because she has funding to put her in a race car. Anybody see the picture she posted of herself on her twitter account...but ugly without the makeup and airbrushing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Woof!
http://twitpic.com/8j4j3
A spot of Clearasil will knock that big ass zit right out. She might even get them as a sponsor! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by grungex
Danica --> NASCAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEye
Please let this happen. Please let this happen. PLEASE let this happen! :bounce:
Yeah, like how you reported that NHL to the IRL was done deal in 2007 before the merger.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEye
If you've got this inside info, which team is she going to, and who is going to sponsor her?
Seriously, you sound like a psychic the way you give minimal information so that way if something similar happens you sound like you knew all along.
That is so when he's wrong 90% of the time he has an out. She's not going to NASCAR. Anybody with half a brain can use nothing more than common sense and see why both sides of that equation don't work. What surprises me is that people like Andretti believe it. Somebody needs to call her bluff and leave her on the sidelines where she belongs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDS
So EE, the news appears to be breaking right now on Twitter by Curt Cavin that Danica is staying at AGR. Deal done, paperwork to be finalized.
So how is it you like your crow served?
Going to NASCAR, switching to Ganassi, staying at AGR might possibly be the worst choice of all. All her words were focused on sponsorship, well in Danica's case, it shouldn't be a matter of finding money to have a car, but rather a matter of salaries, I don't understand why she wouldn't want some real chances of oval wins with Ganassi.
You're assuming that Ganassi, or anyone other than AGR, offered her a decent deal. Seems to me that AGR is the only one that really pursued her for 2010, or offered the best package $$ and otherwise. I'm very surprised at this, but as Turn3 said, Cavin is reporting AGR as a done deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by speeddurango
Right now Chip has two proven winners. If one leaves then he will want another proven winner, or someone with real potential to be one.
'Stompin Danica' does not fit that bill.
Taxi Cab racing? I very much doubt it.
She does not appear to like really close wheel to wheel racing for more than a lap or two at the best. That is a fact of life with the taxi cabs.
Sheer physical strength and endurance.
There is no power steering in those cars as far as I know.
She is quite small and I doubt she has the strength to last 500 miles in stockers especially on tracks like Bristol, Martinsville or the road courses.
This is not a knock at women drivers as other women have been quite good in the taxi cabs.
(I refuse to us the proper name for the taxi cabs and a moderator won't let me use my favourite term and I followed them in the 50's.)
Basically AGR is her best bet and most likely bet as Mikey does not apear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer but sponsorship money talks, especially if some can be moved to other parts of the operation.
OK everybody tear me apart. I know DF would but we have lost him.
I know one forum he posts on and he has toned it down a bit there.
DanicaFan has taken a powder?! Well, that's really too bad. See, I thought he was kind of fun - and I don't mean that in a mean way. He had a lot of passion.
Just FYI, NASCAR and Sprinters and most Late Models etc have Power Steering, actual Hydraulic Type, F1 has it too.
rh
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I did not realize you lived in such a perfect place, where everything remains the same, and nothing ever changes. How good for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by MDS
So, all the reporters and people who were told by Brett Favre himself that he was retired are now wrong. Maybe in your utopia he never retired, or even better, stayed retired.
There have been a just a few changes since I was told by her father she was off to NASCAR. Maybe you did not hear but there were just a few changes recently with Chevy that kinda changed things a bit. Now that GM has new leadership (God help them) there has been some changes.
Changes happen, and as we all a know a few bucks thrown here or there can change the balance at any time. XXX not only lost a bit of money, they lost enough that they could not honor the contract. Not only with Ms. Patrick, but with ther primary driver as well. Things are still in play, and though the players have changed, some things have yet to be settled.
But I do appreicate the you pointing out that I did say that NHL was going to run in the IRL (which they did), but you forgot to mention all the others firsts (Phoenix GP canceled, Las Vegas canceled, Champcar not making it after LB (long before the merger) and the list goes on and on.
You were probably one of the guys who used to like arguing about how many fans were at an event, based on your "expert" knowledge gathered from your couch.
If you don't care to know what Canadian will be driving in the series next year and for whom (not named PT, Tags, or Ranger, btw) or what exactly is going to be annouced by SF today (I'll be there btw, so maybe we can chat!) I'll just continue to report "elsehwere".
As for AR, there are several scenarios in play. If DP stays, they will be a four car team (DP, Marco, TK and FM). If she does move on, things become a bit more cloudy. They would be at least a two car team, maybe three. Don't be shocked if TK ends up at Ganassi, as he would have to buy out the contract from AR (becuase if DP leaves and Formula Dream $$ leaving, money could be an issue. Moraes and Dunno brining money could still be possible, again if DP moves on. Moraes has been talking to them for some time.
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Originally Posted by EagleEye
Damn, a lot sure has happened in the PAST TWO DAYS, huh? Look at the date of your last post. You were so sure she was signed sealed and delivered two days ago, now you are talking about things that have been happening for months as if they were things that happened in the last two days.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEye
Look, I do appreciate the insights you bring here. But really, is it so hard to say, "Hmmm, looks like I was wrong"? Instead, we get this puffed out chest speech about all the times you were right as you back pedal the very statement you made with such absolute certainty only two days ago.
Gary
Be where? I don't think she's hosting a presser, just putting out a release.
Sarah announced via-twitter at like 7 a.m. this morning she was painting her car pink as part of a fundraiser for the Susan G. Koleman foundation. Good for her, but hardly "Big" news, can't blame her for promoting it though.
We lost DF?? I wondered where he stood on this....lol
Danica wasn't going ANYWHERE. No one in NASCAR needs sponsors so bad that they would put Danica in a car that she would tear up on a regular basis and likely be life and death to keep in the top 35.
Jag...I didn't want her in NASCAR because I didn't want to hear the hype until she got behind the wheel and fell flat on her @ss.
She proved it yesterday at Infineon. She cannot run road courses, and THAT is one of the ways for an OW driver to wedge a foot in the door with a NASCAR team, that is be a "ringer"
BTW drifter, Taxicabs do have power steering, but if you watch any NASCAR at all, you notice those guys are still whipped after a run at Bristol or Martinsville. The COT is a handful, and I think Danica would be lost.....
Her attitude stunk too. No one in NASCAR with a team would have stood for her stance it was Cup or nothing. She only started talking about going to the Nationwide cars when it was clear no one was buying her BS.....
Danica's opinion of her ability is dangerous......and no one outside of Mike Andretti seems to buy her crap no more.
I'm certainly not going to suggest DP would have any success in NASCAR, but I don't think that it being too "physical" is what would hurt her chances. Ever watch the in-car cams on the IRL road courses? You can't tell me that's less physical than what the NASCAR drivers are doing, and it's at much higher g-forces. The reasons why she would not do well in NASCAR are too numerous to mention here, but the physicality of the driving, or her fitness, are IMO not a factor.
Very well put, which is what common sense has said all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
EE, sorry to say but your foot is in your mouth on this. You can't state that a contract has been signed and sealed then say things changed...c'mon. From my point of view, which does not include any inside information, this was obvious the ENTIRE time and you just got dooped.
Maybe Danica's opinion of herself is over the top, but how many racers have we seen who tell us they could be stars with money? Really, she's won a race, usually qualifies well, doesn't crash much and lets races come back to her most of the time and that's why she's fifth in the point standings. That's neither a dominatrix or a backmarker and I know a lot of drivers who'd like to be fifth in points.
DF is on another forum I post on. He was getting the same reaction there and after a few people suggested he tone it down (which was also done here) he seems to have. I believe he is on at least a couple of other forums as well.
On power steering--my bad.
NP ED (yikes bad initials) back when I drove (think Coliseum) we used our shoulders and arms, and were holding onto the wheel to keep from sliding off the seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Eventually we discovered if you were seated firmly you could steer better.
And with power steering you could steer with wrists instead of shoulders.
So PS became big in the 80's.
rh
Much of what you're saying is actually true, IC. I think what gets a lot of people (myself, anyway) amped up about Danica is that she's soooo far over the top on her opinion of herself, it's rather amazing. Yes, Danica has won a race. But not just one race in the IRL. That's the only automobile race that's she's EVER won outright. So that begs the question: why would a person who, at the age of 27+, has won exactly one car race in her entire life, and has never won a championship (in a car), think that she was ready to jump straight into a Nextel Cup car? Why, when open wheel champions and/or experienced winners, such as Montoya, Hornish, Franchitti and Allmendinger all made their way up to Cup by gaining experience in Busch/Nationwide? What does she smoke? How big is her head?Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool
She didn't yammer quite as much about F1, but the same delusional thought pattern seemed to afflict her on that topic too. Danica would have done well to hang on in GP2, I figure. She is just not that (consistently) impressive on road courses. With the exact right setup and the wind blowing just right, she has shown flashes of competence, but no flashes of brilliance, that I'm aware of. She doesn't truly suck, but outside of some good pit strategy this year, why would she think she should/could even be on the same track with the likes of those F1 drivers who have actually won road course races and/or championships in formula cars? There are still some half-baked ride buyers in F1 - though not many this year. But can anyone name even one F1 driver who has not won at least one road course race in some open wheel formula? Can anyone here name at least one NASCAR Nextel Cup driver who has not won at least one stock car race in his life??? And how many stock cars has she even driven? So whether in F1 or NASCAR, that would be The Danica. I don't get it. Well, I do get it (I saw the bikini pics too), but let's be real.
Oh yes, I soooo want her to go to NASCAR!!! I get a warm feeling in a naughty place just thinking about it. You go, girl!!! :devil:
Her performance, compared to "like" performance in Nextel Cup or F1, ain't the same, I agree. But when guys like Guerrero, Boesel, etc., were running Indycars, they weren't F1 race winners, either. F2 or F3, probably yes. IMO, she deserves to be about where she's at in the championship. Probably a few better shoes with bad luck and worse ones with good luck.
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I have mixed feelings. On one hand, if she would've somehow found a sucker to take her in NASCAR the way AGR did, she would've failed miserably (I think outside of herself that is a universal given). She fails in NASCAR then the Danica Brand is history and we don't have to deal with it any longer. Plus, the hope is that would open up a fairly quality seat for a truly talented driver.
On the other hand, I have five fingers as Steven Wright once said! Seriously, I'm sort of glad to see her stay at AGR. She's contributed heavily to their demise so lets give her another shot at 27 years old to see how much further she can sink before they give her the boot. When she came to AGR, they were part of the big 3. Steadily, they've declined largely because they have 3 clueless drivers with very little skill. I also believe that driver after driver has left due to the "chemistry" on that team. The fact that TK stayed despite this lack of chemistry is a mystery known as loyalty that I'm afraid TK will never be repaid for. When the Danica got to AGR all the talk was of how competitive she'd be and how many races she was going to win, etc. etc. We have our answers and then some. So what does she have left to lose? Nothing, she's already made her bed and now its time to see if she can wake up. My guess, with an occasional bout of hitting a set-up right on the money and an occosional strategy call to produce a good result, we'll see exactly what we've seen her entire professional and amatuer career.
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Originally Posted by indycool
Worse one with bad luck?
Helio Scott dario and/ or Ryan?
You're probably right this year, Ken. In other years, there seem to have been a few. Certainly the four above her now deserve to be there.
I know why she is 5th in points. Because the quality of drivers on ovals is thin. The Justin Wilson's and the like are not threats on the ovals but he and Will Power make the road races a much deeper field. Danica is good on ovals and they are enough of the sched that she can hang around and get good points days.
She isn't as good as the points show, she isn't as good as she thinks she is, and I will say again, she doesn't have that ride without the look. Katharine Legge won 3 races in Atlantic in bigger fields and she cant buy a break...
not that she would survive either, but unlike Danica, she didn't get there by doing cheesecake photos...
I think the 'Danica Brand' has discovered she very few viable options left.
Katherine Legge is at least making a living in the DTM although a mid field runner at best. That is one tough series and unless you have the latest car very hard to shine.