Infineon Cup Race Thread

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15th June 2009, 23:02
Jonesi

Infineon Cup Race Thread

46 cars on Entry List, 3 will DNQ.
Top 35:
14 TONY STEWART
24 JEFF GORDON
48 JIMMIE JOHNSON
2 KURT BUSCH
39 RYAN NEWMAN
99 CARL EDWARDS
16 GREG BIFFLE
5 MARK MARTIN
18 KYLE BUSCH
11 DENNY HAMLIN
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17 MATT KENSETH
31 JEFF BURTON
00 DAVID REUTIMANN
42 JUAN P MONTOYA
9 KASEY KAHNE
33 CLINT BOWYER
83 BRIAN VICKERS
88 DALE EARNHARDT JR
26 JAMIE McMURRAY
47 MARCOS AMBROSE
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07 CASEY MEARS
1 MARTIN TRUEX JR
29 KEVIN HARVICK
77 SAM HORNISH JR
20 JOEY L0GANO
43 REED SORENSON
19 ELLIOTT SADLER
6 DAVID RAGAN
96 BOBBY LABONTE
55 MICHAEL WALTRIP
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44 AJ ALLMENDINGER
12 DAVID STREMME
98 PAUL MENARD
7 ROBBY GORDON
34 JOHN ANDRETTI

GOGH:
82 SCOTT SPEED
71 DAVID GILLILAND
87 JOE NEMECHEK
66 DAVE BLANEY
13 MAX PAPIS
02 BRANDON ASH
08 BORIS SAID
09 RON FELLOWS
27 TOM HUBERT
36 BRIAN SIMO
37 TONY AVE
16th June 2009, 20:43
Sparky1329

I love road course races. I wish there were at least two more on the schedule. It's what separates the men from the boys. :D
20th June 2009, 02:35
Jonesi

Starting Grid
83 BRIAN VICKERS
18 KYLE BUSCH
47 MARCOS AMBROSE
14 TONY STEWART
9 KASEY KAHNE
1 MARTIN TRUEX JR
39 RYAN NEWMAN
19 ELLIOTT SADLER
08 BORIS SAID
17 MATT KENSETH
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48 JIMMIE JOHNSON
20 JOEY L0GANO
24 JEFF GORDON
5 MARK MARTIN
16 GREG BIFFLE
29 KEVIN HARVICK
42 JUAN P MONTOYA
77 SAM HORNISH JR
66 DAVE BLANEY
44 AJ ALLMENDINGER
--
07 CASEY MEARS
7 ROBBY GORDON
26 JAMIE McMURRAY
11 DENNY HAMLIN
96 BOBBY LABONTE
33 CLINT BOWYER
2 KURT BUSCH
43 REED SORENSON
09 RON FELLOWS
98 PAUL MENARD
--
87 JOE NEMECHEK
71 DAVID GILLILAND
13 MAX PAPIS
99 CARL EDWARDS
88 DALE EARNHARDT JR
31 JEFF BURTON
04 P. J. JONES
55 PATRICK CARPENTIER
12 DAVID STREMME
6 DAVID RAGAN
--
34 JOHN ANDRETTI
00 DAVID REUTIMANN
02 BRANDON ASH

DNQ:
82 SCOTT SPEED
27 TOM HUBERT
36 BRIAN SIMO
37 CHRIS COOK
20th June 2009, 03:06
e2mtt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky1329

I love road course races. I wish there were at least two more on the schedule. It's what separates the men from the boys. :D

agree
20th June 2009, 18:36
DanicaFan

I dont like NASCAR on road courses. Its not exciting to watch.

Also, Joe Nemechek is putting Scott Speed in his car for this race.
20th June 2009, 19:15
NoahsGirl

I love NASCAR on road courses, purely because they are so unsuitable!
20th June 2009, 21:13
Mark in Oshawa

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

I dont like NASCAR on road courses. Its not exciting to watch.

Also, Joe Nemechek is putting Scott Speed in his car for this race.

DanicaFan, if you cant watch the pushing and shoving of NASCAR boys on a road course and not find it exciting, it might explain a lot.

Nemechek is putting Speed in the car because Toyota and Red Bull are paying him to. Speed screwed up trying too hard to get that car up the grid when a nice safe fast 90% lap would have put him in the field. Instead, he got the red mist because Vickers was on pole in the same team car....
22nd June 2009, 02:22
willracefan

it seems that almost every driver in nascar that wins is someone that you dont like, is immature, is from another country and thinks he's all that(insert punkoya), or one who has won too much. there isnt a true driver but a select few to root for and they barely win.

i really am depressed with this race season and just want it to end. i dont even feel like checking up on the pickems right now or even my own contest.
22nd June 2009, 02:29
harvick#1

great drive by Kahne he outraced the big boys who are suppose to be upfront and win.

off topic, but someone in Nascar needs to have Boris Said's racing license. hes become such a huge joke and wrecks everyone, he had to have been involved in about 15 incidents today.

I'm not a fan of Sonoma because its more than a demo derby than a race, maybe if they went back to the sports car course, the racing would be better. I'm a huge fan of road racing, but this is a bad track unless they use the correct version of the track.
22nd June 2009, 05:13
DanicaFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

DanicaFan, if you cant watch the pushing and shoving of NASCAR boys on a road course and not find it exciting, it might explain a lot.

Nemechek is putting Speed in the car because Toyota and Red Bull are paying him to. Speed screwed up trying too hard to get that car up the grid when a nice safe fast 90% lap would have put him in the field. Instead, he got the red mist because Vickers was on pole in the same team car....

Think what you want but watching NASCAR on a road course most of the time is like watching a parade with lots of turns.
22nd June 2009, 05:27
Sparky1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvick#1

great drive by Kahne he outraced the big boys who are suppose to be upfront and win.

off topic, but someone in Nascar needs to have Boris Said's racing license. hes become such a huge joke and wrecks everyone, he had to have been involved in about 15 incidents today.

I'm not a fan of Sonoma because its more than a demo derby than a race, maybe if they went back to the sports car course, the racing would be better. I'm a huge fan of road racing, but this is a bad track unless they use the correct version of the track.

I liked the old configuration too, harv. There were more opportunities to pass and it was more interesting IMO.

I like Boris but he was a menace out there today. Anyway, congrats to Kasey and the #9 team!
22nd June 2009, 05:53
harvick#1

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Think what you want but watching NASCAR on a road course most of the time is like watching a parade with lots of turns.

and the IRL right now isn't :laugh: last I saw, there was alot more passing in this race than every race the IRL has held at Sonoma
22nd June 2009, 10:27
Oli_M

Thought the race was pretty good, quite a lot of genuine passing.

I thought with 10 to go and JPM sitting 3rd he was gonna take the win, can't believe he dropped back to ?6th. Ambrose had a great run and strategy to come from the back to third, but again was surprised on the last few restarts he wasn't able to run closer to the 9 and 14. Shame for Kyle and Brian, throughout thought they were on the right strategy and had a shot at the win until the accident that involved them both.

As to the number of crashes - I was shocked at the number of blatant 'take outs' that happened. Why didn't NASCAR penalize the drivers? If you spin someone out, you drop behind them when they get restarted. Enforcing that a few times would make everyone drive a bit tidier and greatly improve the racing.

All that said, well done to the 9 crew and the 14 team for great driving particularly at the end. Good fun to watch!
22nd June 2009, 11:39
wedge

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Think what you want but watching NASCAR on a road course most of the time is like watching a parade with lots of turns.

I think IRL can be just as worse. No one does anything because of fuel conservation so they wait for the round of stops to play out. But at least NASCAR makes up for its parades with some bumping and banging.

Anyway I like both series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oli_M

As to the number of crashes - I was shocked at the number of blatant 'take outs' that happened. Why didn't NASCAR penalize the drivers? If you spin someone out, you drop behind them when they get restarted. Enforcing that a few times would make everyone drive a bit tidier and greatly improve the racing.

Agreed.

Great drive from Ambrose. Being out-muscled by Smoke and JPM going backwards in the final laps just shows NASCAR has quality road racers :up:
22nd June 2009, 13:06
e2mtt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oli_M

As to the number of crashes - I was shocked at the number of blatant 'take outs' that happened. Why didn't NASCAR penalize the drivers? If you spin someone out, you drop behind them when they get restarted. Enforcing that a few times would make everyone drive a bit tidier and greatly improve the racing.

It seemed like the majority of these "blatant" takeouts were done by Boris Said. He may be super skilled at sports cars, but he was driving into the corners WAY too fast all day, then pinballing off other cars to make the corner.
22nd June 2009, 14:08
Lee Roy

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedge

I think IRL can be just as worse.

The IRL is a joke.
22nd June 2009, 14:47
Sparky1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Think what you want but watching NASCAR on a road course most of the time is like watching a parade with lots of turns.

Don't like it? Don't watch it.
22nd June 2009, 14:50
Lee Roy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky1329

Don't like it? Don't watch it.

Yep.

Although, if he's a fan of Danica, he'll probably be watching NASCAR next year . . . . . but probably just the qualifying.
22nd June 2009, 17:38
muggle not

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Roy

Yep.

Although, if he's a fan of Danica, he'll probably be watching NASCAR next year . . . . . but probably just the qualifying.

More likely ARCA. But on the other hand, Nationwide sometimes has "field fillers". ;)
22nd June 2009, 18:12
Sparky1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by muggle not

More likely ARCA. But on the other hand, Nationwide sometimes has "field fillers". ;)

There was some discussion about Danica by the TV talking heads over the weekend. The consensus seemed to be that she'd have to pay her dues and start in ARCA or the NNS series.

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