That was a real tour de force who brings back memories of another young German driver in the wet! :D
Go Vettel! :)
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That was a real tour de force who brings back memories of another young German driver in the wet! :D
Go Vettel! :)
And all done without double deck diffusers.
Vettel was just perfect in the wet, not a single mistake.
Reminded me of Hamilton's drive in the wet at Silverstone. Vettel was in control, self-assured and supremely confident all day, and that after just three laps in qualifying!
The boy's a star and a real threat this year :s mokin:
And Hamilton reminded me of Massa in the wet at Silverstone! :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Arrows makes a good point about qually: had it been a dry race Vettel would have been sitting pretty on a huge stack of unused tyres. He had it all covered this weekend.
This was no fluke result for him or Red Bull. :up:
I raise Hamilton's winning drive because we are witnessing a great new generation of drivers in F1 at the moment. It's an exciting time for F1 in that respect and after Hamilton bursting on the scene it's fantastic to see new winners...teams and drivers :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I've had this sig since December. I have a lot faith in this team, chassis and drivers. The sky is the limit and Newey's installation of the DDD is going to pose a big challenge to the other competitors. I really think that the RB5's prowess is just beginning to be unfurled.
No doubt RBR got all the corners covered for this week end and I have a doubt there is much more to come from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
If it wasn't for a stupid mistake in Oz Vettel would have 16 points and be only 5 points shy of Button.
I'm a bit relieved now that it looks like the championship isn't a forgone conclusion, however I have a feeling that Brawn & Co have very different feeling from mine! ;)
I know, don't take it hard, it was just for a laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
:cool:
Red Bull have only lost points through mistakes or misfortune this year, so that gap to BrawnGP is smaller than the points would suggest.
It will be good to see Seb and Mark go after them, especially with the diffuser solution on the way. :up:
Hamilton gave it 101% today, whereas Massa drove at 90% and still got it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
What a load of bull crap. Next time wake up before posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Hamilton overdrove it today like Massa did last year.
And you have the telemetry to prove that?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Anybody who says "101%" is talking bollocks to start with.
Don't stress it, our fellow forumer wedge has clearly lost his chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
Let's rather go back to the topic of the thread, and enjoy a great achievement by a non DDD team, which is impressive to say the least.
Red Bull are most definitely on the up. Comments were made during the race that it's going to be a tough job to hold on to Vettel - although can anyone really see him jumping across to Ferrari on current form?
brilliant race in brilliantly wet conditions won by a brilliant driver in a brilliant car.
BRILLIANT!
That's what I meant. He was trying too hard today whereas Massa last year looked like he was having a stroll and still fell over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
As an Aussie great to see Red Bull doing so well. Would have loved to see Webber win [I was willing Vettel to have an off in the last 10 laps!] but Vettel drove a super race. All credit to him.
Hopefully Mark will get his chance later in the year.
i wanted webber to win aswell. the unlucky aussie deserves it. but vettel was faultless so should be congratulated
RB 1-2 who would of thunked it :D
Kudos to Buemi in their sister TR Car too :)
OH HAPPY DAY! :D
No you didn't, because you were taking a stab at Massa without knowing how hard he was trying last year in Silverstone.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
You talk rubbish and than try to turn it around, you're a joke.
Back to Red Bull and Vettel now.
You should be ashamed.Quote:
Originally Posted by skm
How many times did Massa spin that day compared to everyone else? Too many times too many! FACT!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by skm
I don't hate Massa. Massa was unlucky today. Unfortunately gearbox gremlins robbed him of great drive.
3 or 4 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
How many times did Hamilton today? 4 or more! So what is your point?
You're trying to prove what exactly?! The situations were similar with the difference that in Silverstone last year Massa was on the wrong tires at some point. That wasn't the case today with Lewy.
I say both are good drivers that had a bad day, you just try to bash Massa.
Let's stop hijacking this thread with useless bashing tries.
OK, next time think it through before saying things that you can't prove (like the 90%).Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Now let's put this aside, and talk about the Vettel beating Button by a hefty 40 seconds.
Vettel even puts his hands up and accepts when he's at fault - and often when he isn't. Surely the onus should be on Buemi to watch out?Quote:
Vettel took blame for an incident during the second safety car period when Sebastien Buemi collided with him behind the safety car, he had backed off because he thought Trulli’s slow moving car in front was Barrichello and didn’t realise that Buemi was behind him
That's one of Vettel's most impressive traits in my opinion, even though many others wouldn't agree (I'm looking at you Eddie Jordan :-P)
http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/...-bull-get-1-2/
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Originally Posted by ioan
Guys calm down, and watch the language !Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
I wonder why so much anger. I want Jenson to win and I am panicked now, as Vettel is a better driver and the car was better today, but still the race was fantastic and I enjoyed it. F1 should be a great celebration, not a cause for vicious fights...
Vettel - superb! :up: :up: Two wins, both from pole, both in the wet. :) Besides that a nice guy and a great gentleman too.
To be honest, it's still really hard to believe that Red Bull has dominated a Grand Prix and achieved a 1-2. Well, this year is just so unbelievable. :p : Is it really Formula One?
Vettel might be a championship contender already in 2009, but before judging that, it remains to be seen, how does RB5 fare against BGP001 in dry.
Vettel is special. I think that all F1 drivers are good and most of them are very good. Some, however, are very, very special and I think that Vettel is one of them.
You do realise that bunsen's won two out of three races this year, and he hardly qualifies as new.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I don't believe that I am actually supporting bunsen. :(
But I am :) I have found redemption.
Yep, for me there are three drivers in current F1, who are in that highest group (FA/LH/SV). Last year Kubica got a lot of attention too, but I'm not convinced yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
When he was doing so well in the Torro Rosso, I couldn't believe it. Yeah! I rated him then and this drive just proves it. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Now. Anyone wondering if we could see a red bull podium lockout later in the season? Perhaps toro could get up to the top step again one a track that favours ferrari power.
I was not all that impressed with Vettel until Monza, and then to run the race he did!!!
and then Brazil came and he had the nerve to run down and pass Hamilton, taking the WDC away from Hamilton, and would have except for the sudden slowness of a certain car.....
When it got wet, I expected him to win unless something beyond his control took it away....expecting someone to have the skill to win in the rain, where it is very treachous.....says it all
Massa was great today, just plain unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
As for Vettel, he was great too! :) Although I do think in the dry, that Barrichello and maybe Jenson would have given him some trouble.
Really happy for Mark Webber as well, great second place, which was virtually flawless. I know it's a thread about Vettel, but I had to mention, a good drive from Kovy today :)
Another win for Vettel, and that's good.
But... it's in the wet and, while that's admirable, I'm still not convinced.
Look at his overall record, and you'll see why: Two wins in the wet, not even a podium when it's dry or medium.
I'm sorry, but I would rather have a driver that is capable of winning in ALL types of conditions, not just those that suit you. In the crush to compare him to Schumacher, Michael was able to win in any race, wet or dry. So far, Vettel has been a 'one trick pony', only able when the track is sufficiently wet for him to maintain focus on the drive. In this game you have to be better than that, so until he does I'll just 'curb my enthusiasm'.