Since Petter is free to choose, and Henning has not chosen yet, what are their options as of today for 09 ?
Will they only look at WRC, or could they look elsewhere ?
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Since Petter is free to choose, and Henning has not chosen yet, what are their options as of today for 09 ?
Will they only look at WRC, or could they look elsewhere ?
Why would they look elsewhere?
maybe rallycross, what else.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Has Petter been cleared to get released from his contract with Subaru Japan?
If so then this is good news. I wonder whether either of them would move to the s2000 in anticipation for the changes to occur in 2010?
Seats in WRC cars are all but filled unless you pay your way into a WRC drive.
Kind of in between a rock and a hard place. Well Petter that is. Surely Henning can continue without too many issues..
I still hope whale of Bozian for Henning ;)
Perhaps IRC? :) When Loeb leaves the WRC in 2010 or so then what does the WRC have? Only a name in my view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Next year the IRC has
The Monte
Rally GB (A rally in Scotland is a better Rally GB than a rally in South Wales!)
Safari
and San Remo.
Next year the WRC has
Acropolis
Finland
and Portugal
Ok so the WRC has a better class of cars but that ends when the WRCars are banned? :) If the Monte coverage is good I suspect some rallies may get itchy feet and move to where their event gets good coverage and they are allow to run a route that suits them. The IRC also isn't lumbered with contracts with all the silly Middle East/Mediterranean rallies which pollute the championship.
IRC, WRC, like I said it's just a name.
Norwegian press is reporting that Petter is to call Citroen Sport and MSport today to check his possibilities.
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=539383
Could there be a couple of C4s with little plans for 09 ??
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Originally Posted by Sulland
Can't wait for the final decision ;)
But it's true that if Malcolm Wilson misses the opportunity it'll be the END of Ford expectations for title next year :s :s
This is the official statement. Unofficial he has probably been in contact for some time nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
after a Norwegian rally yesterday, where Henning drove one of the Kongsrud Fabia WRC's he said that the Fabia will be a winning car with small adjustments, and was better to drive than the 07 Focus !
He also said that we should not be surprised to see him behind the wheel of a Peugeot again. Guessing he then means a whale and not a 207 !?
Sure...you only need to change engine, drive train, suspension and diffs and you got yourself a winner... :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
change of driver would not hurt either.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
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Originally Posted by Sulland
:bounce:
Maybe they will set up Norway WRT or Solberg WRT and drive as a team ? :eek:
That's nice but the Fabia couldn't win in WRC, not unless Ford and Citroen are about to quit too... But when it was set up and driven properly it was a decent car and would still be capable of points these days probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
But this is also about driving style and getting the car to work for you. If Henning Likes the Fabia or the 307 better than the Focus, then he can get closer to the edge of the car, and drive faster than in a car you do not get the best out of ! It is also about feel and trust for the car, not only development.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Agree RS ?
Yes, I do agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Henning doesn't seem to have got along with the Focus very well at all. I'm not sure it suits the style of a lot of drivers. Galli was also a disappointment in the Focus and Duval did not seem to get on with it all that well either.
It would certainly be interesting to see Henning in a 307 or even a Fabia next year :)
Malcom wouldn't let them come close to the M1 cars. If they got good settings it would suddenly be changed or the "We had to change your rear diff, but we had none with the spec you wanted" way. Then is better to do the Mikkelsen or Adapta solution. By out the cars and test and develop them in a different teamQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
M-Sport customer cars are "way different" to the factory cars. Also they run the team as a support function to the BP cars. I hope if Petter gets an M-Sport car it will be a proper factory car. When Marcus was at Ford he would speak Swedish to Henning (a language understood by both of them) and he would help more than the team. I get the impression Henning doesn't want to top up the Wilson family finances any more.
I dont think Henning thinks to much about the money, but if we read btw the lines in reports during and after rallies this year, a lot of strange things happened to the car, and some times without him asking for change, and when he asked -- the settings went in a different direction than planned.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
I think it has to do with trust - and that need to go both ways !!!
PSRT :eek:
Yes according to Petter in norwegian media, PSRT is one of the options !
http://www.tv2sporten.no/ovrig/article2487934.ece
Translated:
http://translate.google.no/translate...istory_state0=
For some reason google translated Rally Norway to Rally Australia and Spydeberg to Rockhampton, do not know why ??
Its a shame for Petter to be in this position. After last years ongoing development and improvement of the new Subaru, I thought Petter may have gotten a lease of life and be able to attack for wins and podiums like a few years ago. This rut brings a whole new dilemma. Maybe its best for Petter to get some early S2000 testing in and start a blank sheet when WRC cars are 'outta here!'
As for Henning, I also feel that the Ford never suited his driving style. But, on top of that, I believe he still needs to learn more about driving on tarmac and gravel. He's getting there but I don't think he's cut out for winning just yet, regardless of what he gets his hands on.
Best of luck to both for their 2009 campaign though. I hope they work something out :up:
What car Solberg's own team would use?
With good will from all parts Solberg should drive with semi-factory Citroen or Ford but if that happens is different thing.
A funny jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by Gard
What chances of Bozian running C4's? - I was told recently that Citroen only allow two "contract teams" (running rallies with all pre and post event work being done back at the Paris base) these teams were PH Sport and Bozian. I had only heared of PH Sport up til then and thought Bozain were a Peugeot satellite team. I guess it could be possible for Bozian to run C4'S for the Solberg brothers.
Perhaps Ton 206 wrc can tell us more.
i sure hope he dont back out from that competitive car stuff, he was talking about a few days back.
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Originally Posted by MJW
I have no news related about Bozian and Citroën !!! I only know the team has several whales... :s
they would get a better price/kg if they sell the whales to Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
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Originally Posted by Paddy Cummins
Henning was helpless on tarmac, but has improved after a lot of GoKart practice, but still has a lot to learn.
On the loose stuff he will be there with enough training and a car that suites his style.
Henning is a technical driver in the sense that he knows how all parts of the car works. But if he cant test, to understand the car - he will struggle more to set it up than other drivers that just explains how they feel to the engineer. Henning thinks like an engineer, but need to understand every nut and bolt himself to get it right. (At least I think this is how it is....)
In a smaller team he can easier do this, and maybe even buy his own training car, to pull it apart and put it back together !!
I think it is impossible citroen to run a second M2 team. Tom which are your opinion, is it possible to run a second team by Bozian??
I see. Thats a valid point. Henning is a great asset to a team in that sense. Even though his driving style, as you say, is based on the technical aspects of the car, it sounds like he can offer a lot in terms of mechanical and engineering advice [Edit: in terms of feedback.]Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I've no doubt that Henning has the know-how. He understands the working of cars and all of the details, but I think its getting all those details to piece together and work for him is whats letting him down. That coupled with his lack of experience on the loose and on asphalt. But I think Henning deserves to end up somewhere in 2009. He's also a funny guy, a big personality! :) :up:
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Originally Posted by Sulland
Correct reply ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
If you consider what Latvala did in many years (as a privateer with Ford and then with Stobart) and what Gigi showed in a single season then you would change your mind - just look the difference of Latvala as a work driver and imagine what could be Gigi with a Ford work seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
There's no need to say again the reasons of his 2008 results ... (read the Atkinson thread for details ^^).
This was not a criticsm of Gigi, I was just saying that some drivers don't seem to get on with it (the Focus) so well. Gigi and Duval are both agressive drivers, maybe the big soft, bouncy floaty Focus didn't suit their style. I would have thought both could have been better in a C4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Sulland, where did you get this quote? And do you know what PG thought of the Fabia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
From here: http://www.ostlendingen.no/article/2...412693925/1108Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Translated:
http://translate.google.no/translate...istory_state0=
Dont know what PG thought, maybe the swedes here have picked up something from swedish press.
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Originally Posted by s.loeb
You mean both Solbergs driving the whales ???? :D
Possible after all, if budget is ready...I don't see Marc Valliccioni(new owner of Bozian) refusing... :p :
They can better take the option starting their own team with the Xsara´s! :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
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Originally Posted by Brother John
Xsaras have never been adapted to the Pirelli tyres, unlike the whales(with Andreucci and Galli as main developpers)...so the cars risk to be deeply off pace :rolleyes:
Bozian Racing is not a Peugeot Sport Satellite Team anymore. It hasen´ t been for some years actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW