The Australians really did a number on the Poms. :smokin:
Great bowling by Mitchell Johnson
He bowls to the left , he bowls to the right. This Mitchell Johnson , his bowling's alright.
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The Australians really did a number on the Poms. :smokin:
Great bowling by Mitchell Johnson
He bowls to the left , he bowls to the right. This Mitchell Johnson , his bowling's alright.
Not a thread I wish to post on just now. :D
In all seriousness though.
Australia and Johnson are playing well. They deserve nothing less than utter domination.
As for us, well we just gotta try and dig in. As unlikely as that is. We have no other choice. As for the Ashes as a whole. I think this one's gone back down under.
It will be interesting to see if England change things round a bit for future series or whether they stick with some of the older players.
The chances of England winning the second test at Adelaide is zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
From their second innings, Australia needed to post just 20 to make England face a record for a successful fourth innings chase. To make England chase more than 500 when this series they haven't even got to 200 is in all honesty, is firstly selecting and the taking Mickey Bliss for the XI.
I should also point out that in the entire of Ashes history, only one side has even won 3-2 after being 2-0 down; that was Australia in 1936-37 in Australia.
In the words of current Australian Prime Minister and goblin (ex-employee of Gringotts), this series is as good as "dead, buried and cremated"
As a member on here used to call certain drivers; England are batting like 'sick dogs'.....
Saying that, they've been on the slide since 2012, and were fortunate to win in the summer 3-0. Only at Lord's were they the far better team. Too many not producing....
There is a very good chance for England to draw this game: Hire some Aboriginal rain dancers.
I couldn't have been more surprised than to see Australia actually playing with some confidence when the Gabba test got going. Seemed alien after so many years in the doldrums. England just straight up need to get their act together. Their batsmen in particular have no excuse to be struggling so badly against pace.
Edit: I'll also add this; Michael Clark is way better as a captain than Ricky Ponting ever was. He's always attacking, leaves the other side guessing, has better instincts, reads the game better, and uses what resources he has (which, lets face it, still aren't THAT amazing compared to yesteryear's players) much more effectively.
At the beginning of Day 5, it is raining in Adelaide; so maybe there's hope... but if it stops raining, forget it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
The highest successful fourth innings run chase is 418 and England don't look like coming close. They were sent in with the prospect of surviving six sessions and England don't look like coming close.
The ABC's Crystal Ball puts:
England win - 1%
Australia win - 92.5%
Draw - 6.4%
A draw is technically possible I suppose but hoping in that might be like trying to catch the wind with a sieve.
When Panesar was caught by Rogers at short-cover... England were all out for 312. Australia won by 218 runs.
At this point England are 2-0 down and I think the best case scenario is a 2-all series draw; at worst is a whitewash.
The difference between Australian fans and English fans though are that the English a predisposed to lose. When England was exceptional crap in the 1990s, we knew the score. Australian fans are entirely fairweather though.
Must say the Bruce's have bounced back nicely after their poor performances in Engerland :)
I keep seeing the odd snippet on the news that we are playing some cricket down under. You'd never know otherwise though as its not on normal TV any more here! Shame as it got so popular again here after 2005. It gets about as much interest as Alpine skiing now.
I'm a purist and love test cricket, more so than ODI's and T20's. But test cricket is dying a slow death. Let's get real, who has 5 days these days to watch cricket? The world has moved on...
Yeah , I really only get excited for tests nowadays.
England have looked like such dunces it's impossible to believe that this (barring one or two) is the same side which trounced India 2-1 in India...The same indian side which beat Australia at home 4-0 btw.
That's Rupert's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Cricket used to be on the Beeb, then Channel 4 and then Rupert spoiled it all for everyone by sticking it on Sky. Rupert even buggered up the series in India in 2012-13 when his broadcast companies conspired with the BCCI and nearly had it taken off the radio too.
Keep on pulling all the feathers off the chicken Rupert and eventually, the chicken will scream... or die.
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Originally Posted by henners88
I know what you are saying in both cases, for me I follow every moment of every Cricket Match England play on TMS on Radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
You hear all the action and get entertained for the whole day. As I work outside as a Gardener I can listen to my pocket radio all day. Bliss
One great idea the BBC have had this year is re running the whole day again during our days so I don't miss Ashes matches like I normally would have too.
Even if we are getting smashed. :(
I couldn't believe Englands attitude to batting in the two tests so far.
Even this morning with no real chance to save the game. Broad goes for a second 6 in the first over of the day. With the possibility of Rain. It was stupidity. At least play cautiously for a little while to see what the weather might do. If they had lasted the first hour then for example it did rain for 3 hours it would be back on, but instead they get out in 45 minutes smashing it to all parts.
The barmy army is also looking more like the barmy cohort this summer. Bandwagon jumpers?Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Bandwagon jumpers?Quote:
Originally Posted by webberf1
The reverse of #3 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... =bandwagonQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
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Originally Posted by webberf1
I know what the term bang wagon means, just didn't understand your context in relation to my post. Did you mean because England aren't winning people have jumped off the bandwagon? If so I think that's wrong. The reason people aren't watching is because a pay channel has the rights and the audience tuning in is about 150-200k. When the BBC last had the coverage and England were winning lol, it was a healthy following. It obviously doesn't help when the sport is being played down under too because nobody wants to get up in the middle of the night to watch. A series of circumstances has made crickets popularity slump here unfortunately.
England's lack of preparation has cost them. I still think they can come back from this, but they've have left no margin for error.
I was talking specifically about the English fans present at the Gabba and Adelaide Oval. They looked to be in far fewer numbers than last time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
In regards to your lack of coverage, I sympathise with you. It sucks how Sky is taking over this stuff.
Do you have any anti-siphoning laws in the UK? Over here, we have such laws to prevent certain events which are deemed 'too important' from being shown on pay-tv instead of free-to-air.
Australia has 1 section of one act; even then, it's up to the disrection of the relevant minister:Quote:
Originally Posted by webberf1
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/ ... /s115.html
(1) The Minister may, by notice published in the Gazette , specify an event, or events of a kind, the televising of which should, in the opinion of the Minister, be available free to the general public.
(1A) The Minister may, by notice published in the Gazette , amend a notice under subsection (1) to specify an additional event, or events of a kind, the televising of which should, in the opinion of the Minister, be available free to the public.
- s.115 of the Broadcasting Services Act 1992
The current list as far as cricket is concerned is probably fine as it protects Test Matches and ODIs of the national team but for other things like F1, it only protects the AGP.
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Series/F2010L03383
Also, given that the current minister is Malcolm Turnbull who is determined to put a knife to the throat of the NBN, and the ABC, and SBS, quite frankly, we should be thankful that there even is any televised sport in this country. Mr Murdoch already has the government in the palm of his hand and I'm sure if he asked nicely, they'd jump.
http://www.archive.dbcde.gov.au/
I think they need two people to score hundreds. KP and Bell most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman racer
Yeah, big partnerships scored often is what they need. For those who don't know, it'll be abnormally hot for this match. Temperatures of 38, 38, 38, 39 and 30 are expected for the scheduled days of this match. Ryan Harris has a potential injury issue, which may be magnified under the heat, particularly if England bat long enough. The pre game talk has been quite cagey over here. I'm not sure what to make of it?
So far, Rogers has fallen to a comedy run-out by Anderson, Shane Watson didn't do his homework and holed out to Swann and Dave Warner has been bashing like a mad thing.
52/2 after 11 overs. At this rate the Aussies will be out for about 250 odd hopefully.
If you want a textbook example of how not to captain, how not to set a field, and how not to instill confidence in your players, then Alistair Cook is doing a pretty good job of that.
I know Cook isn't a great captain right now, but I am confident he will do OK. He is Young, has a lot of experience and has only been captain for a short time. In which time we have won in India and the Home Ashes albeit by a flattering scoreline.
Alistair Cook has dug in now and is looking a bit more like his old self. which is one good thing.
Nether the less this Ashes is all over really. Play out the last 2.5 tests as well as we can and build again for the next series.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/joe ... 2zefa.html
[That was despite no sign of an edge on thermal imaging camera Hot Spot and a squiggle on the new addition to the DRS, the real-time Snicko, that appeared to show a noise slightly after the ball had passed the bat.
- Sydney Morning Herald, 14th Dec 2013
I thought that DRS was supposed to stop howlers. I was wrong. It was designed to stop sensibility.
Law 27.6 says that "If, after consultation, there is still doubt remaining, the decision shall be Not out."
Obviously there must not have been any doubt. But what sort of eejit still gets it wrong? Tony Hill... that sort of eejit.
absolute shocker that , Cricket Decision Making has gone from giving batsmen the benefit of the doubt to giving umpires the benefit of the doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
He's a damn good batsman, no doubt about that. But as a captain he lacks the necessary aggression, lets other players do too much decision making, lets the batting side dictate his field placement, lacks the instincts and doesn't read the game well enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
Well, it seems to me that webberf1 is Shane Warne's account.
Shane Watson has done his homework and is now 82 not out and Piggy Smith has an unbeaten dozen as the Australian lead ticks over 400.
The things that are making this series most interesting are the discussions of cakes and pies on Twitter whilst listening to Test Match Sofa.
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman racer
Speaking of Shane Warne, credit to the bloke. His predictions before the series were (contrary to most cricketing opinions) that Australia would dominate and potentially be able to win 5-0 and that Mitchell Johnson would shine. A lot of people dislike him because they're pussy ass little armchair whiners, but when it comes to cricket he knows what he's talking about just about more than anyone.
If he said that about Johnson, then it's because he had the inside word. But there were a lot of people here that thought Australia were a good chance to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by webberf1
Well no sh*t he has the inside word, being a cricket commentator and mentor it's kind of his job to have the 'inside word'. Point stands: he'd definitely be in the top 5 people in the world to go to to ask anything about the game right now. His knowledge and experience is virtually unmatched.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman racer
I doubt that Mr Warne would know anything about the ODI series between Pakistan and Sri Lanka, or the Indian tour of South Africa, or the West Indies tour of NZ, whereas I suspect that someone like Aggers or Ed Hocknull who writes for the Cricketer magazine, would have a far far far better handle on the state of lots of teams.
Would Warne know who Ross Taylor is? I doubt it.
I dislike Warne as a commentator because he doesn't do his job particularly well. Mark Taylor in that box does a better job at describing why fielders are being placed where they are. Moreover, someone like Jim Maxwell on ABC Radio who is forced to give a better description (because radio listeners can not see what's going on) does a better job again.
I wouldn't put Warne in the Top 5 of anything at the moment.
Australia 385 & 369/6 declared have defeated England 251 & 353. That's 3-0 in the series and Australia have regained the Ashes...
Boo.
Australia win the ashes. Lehmann has made a huge difference
Didn't realise I was supposed to care what you think of his personality or his ability in the commentary box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Fact remains: the guy understands how the game works better than virtually anyone. You don't become the greatest spin bowler in history without such ability.