There were no death camps in Germany during WW11

Currently, I am reading a book on the Holocaust and surprised to read that there were no actual death camps in Germany during WWII. Of course people died in concentration camps
but not as a defined method of killing They died from Malnutrition and other such diseases' such as Cholera, Diphtheria,Typhus and of course exhaustion.
Typical of the Nazi's that they would murder people in other parts of Europe and not Germany.

Of course , this has led to a great deal of Holocaust denial, even to the extent of putting the Einsatzgruppen onto a pedestal that should be known only for murderers as they were the group that came behind the main onslaught and eradicated the remaining survivors. The deadly babies and old people.

The Nazis did everything legally. it wasn't legal under German law to have a death camp so the death camps were not on German soil, e.g. Auschwitz was in Poland.

Does this remind you of Guantánamo Bay?

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Originally Posted by D-Type

The Nazis did everything legally. it wasn't legal under German law to have a death camp so the death camps were not on German soil, e.g. Auschwitz was in Poland.

Does this remind you of Guantánamo Bay?

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Except for the death part the parallels are interesting.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Except for the death part the parallels are interesting.

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Death part?! Hmm, I bet they all had a jolly good time down there in Guantanamo. Those that were innocent I m referring to. Sure they caught some of the bad asses but I can tell you more innocents were picked up like a vacuum cleaner than those that were guilty.

The "great" reporters at Fox, Hannity WATER BOARDING IS NOT TORTURE and O'Reilly, I WAS IN COMBAT, each failed desperately in their respective claims. Almost like "Lord Haha", please correct me if I am mentioning the wrong person form WWII propaganda.
D-Type, I believe you have made a very find comparison.
How many died there off the coast of Cuba.

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Death part?! Hmm, I bet they all had a jolly good time down there in Guantanamo. Those that were innocent I m referring to. Sure they caught some of the bad asses but I can tell you more innocents were picked up like a vacuum cleaner than those that were guilty.

The "great" reporters at Fox, Hannity WATER BOARDING IS NOT TORTURE and O'Reilly, I WAS IN COMBAT, each failed desperately in their respective claims. Almost like "Lord Haha", please correct me if I am mentioning the wrong person form WWII propaganda.
D-Type, I believe you have made a very find comparison.
How many died there off the coast of Cuba.

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Water Boarding isn't torture

Guantanamo Bay IS considered US Territory but being a military installation is policed under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Do your homework

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Originally Posted by D-Type

The Nazis did everything legally. it wasn't legal under German law to have a death camp so the death camps were not on German soil, e.g. Auschwitz was in Poland.

Does this remind you of Guantánamo Bay?

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Guantanamo Bay IS considered US territory....

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Never been good or interested in modern history that's why I'm a bit confused: Was Poland a sovereign state during WW II? Wasn't Poland occupied and annexed to Germany?

The United States assumed territorial control over the southern portion of Guantánamo Bay under the 1903 Cuban-American Treaty. The United States has complete jurisdiction and control over this territory, while Cuba retains ultimate sovereignty. The current government of Cuba regards the U.S. presence in Guantánamo Bay as illegal and insists the Cuban-American Treaty was obtained by threat of force in violation of international law. Some legal scholars judge that the lease may be voidable. It is the home of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, which is governed by the United States.

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Originally Posted by D-Type

The Nazis did everything legally. it wasn't legal under German law to have a death camp so the death camps were not on German soil, e.g. Auschwitz was in Poland.

Does this remind you of Guantánamo Bay?

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Actually Auschwitz and many other camps were definately on German soil as the Nazis annexed and incorporated large pieces of occupied territory. They were not within the pre-38 Germany no, but they were technically, politically, administratively part of Germany. So by every definition possible it was on German soil.

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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo

Never been good or interested in modern history that's why I'm a bit confused: Was Poland a sovereign state during WW II? Wasn't Poland occupied and annexed to Germany?

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No Poland was first of all split between Germany and the Soviet Union (and a little bit for Slovakia) in 1939. Then German-occupied Poland was split into a part fully annexed to Germany and a part under the "General Government". The General Goverment was also directly under control of Hitler and the Nazis, but not part of Germany and also not an independent country. I suppose you could best compare it with an African colony where the territory and the people on it are only exploited for the good of the home nation.

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Currently, I am reading a book on the Holocaust and surprised to read that there were no actual death camps in Germany during WWII. Of course people died in concentration camps
but not as a defined method of killing They died from Malnutrition and other such diseases' such as Cholera, Diphtheria,Typhus and of course exhaustion.
Typical of the Nazi's that they would murder people in other parts of Europe and not Germany.

Of course , this has led to a great deal of Holocaust denial, even to the extent of putting the Einsatzgruppen onto a pedestal that should be known only for murderers as they were the group that came behind the main onslaught and eradicated the remaining survivors. The deadly babies and old people.

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This is factually untrue as I already stated in another post. I suppose the main reason for holocaust denial is that there weren't that many German Jews in the first place. In pre Nazi Germany there were about 250.000 on a population of 80 million. That's almost nothing. Many Germans probably didn't even knew a Jew in person. And of those 250.000 some two thirds survived the war. That is because they had 7 years of Hitler before the World War and already knew they had to emigrate as fast as possible. So even if a German knew about Jews he probably heard they emigrated. It is not hard to understand that that mindset finds it incomprehensible that the German peoples are responsible for the mass annihilation of 6 million people.