Best 2022 livery!
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Best 2022 livery!
Will Craig & Gus be running the Red Bull colours?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Looks like they will
All 4 cars in same livery.
Not a big fan of the purple parts, but best livery of this year. Not that the bar was set high, Hyundai's one is so messy...
Purple Puma looks great!
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Another novelty seen in the Ford Puma #Rally1 revealed today, a small wing profile on the outside of the side winglet, surely conceived to generate some more downforce with the air coming from the A-pillar (side of the car) #WRClive #WRCliveES #WRCjp #MSPORTERS
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJKpPxMX...pg&name=medium
Greensmith with no redbull logos at his overalls
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJKtx-kX...jpg&name=large
Neither the carQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Pic of Chris Glaister
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJLztPZX...pg&name=medium
I name this a Rock-Bull HYBRID livery. Any pics of Gusty's side, presumably that was the original design?
Best livery of 2022 by far, and imho the best livery M-Sport has had since.. The last time they had Red-Bull only this time the purple adds to the color scheme, makes it absolutely stunning. I'm guessing Gus doesn't have Red-Bull since he has crown oil as a private sponser?
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Maybe Breen has become a Red Bull athlete? Though I haven't seen anything to announce it. Off the top of my head, I can't recall too many Irish RB athletes, but I'd have to look it up.
The man from Dungannon was RB sponsored in his Peugeot IRC days...
Short of it yes, they don't need each other. Might not see Crown so much as Rockdoor is in the Greensmith empire, and they're on every car so are also a team sponsor. If RB sponsor the team (Craig isn't RB athlete), will GG's car wear it on the events Loeb doesn't do? Probably not. Without Rockdoor there'd be no Gus and vice-versa, M-Sport are back on two entries most of the time without enough sponsor support for a third. Whatever, as long as it gets cars to the start ramp it's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
are you sure? on the Pictures you posted Greensmith Car wear no RedBul Logo...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
He was British, not Irish....Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
No, he is actually neither British nor Irish...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Under the regulations of the FIA (which is what we are talking about) he competed under the flag of the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
He's British in this respect.
In the same way that Welshman Elfyn Evans is a British.....
Britain means the main island (England, Wales, Scotland). But, Cambridge dictionary says of the term ”British”: belonging to or relating to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland or its people
The livery is the same. The logos not.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
There's the dictionary definition, and the legal perspective, then there's how people feel... there are plenty of people born in the United Kingdom who don't feel comfortable being called British!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I feel compelled to comment despite checking this is an M-Sport thread on Motorsport Forums. Under the Good Friday agreement people of Northern Ireland are free to determine their own national identity and can choose citizenship of Republic of Ireland, UK or both. All Brits and Irish have freedom to move, live, work in either state. Kris is at least a British citizen, Aaron Johnston is from the same county and switched competing as a Brit to the ROI a few years ago. Doesn't really matter why, he has the automatic right. To me they are both Irish through coming from the island of Ireland regardless of citizenship.
Maybe Red Bull is M-Sport''s main sponsor now, but not on Greensmith's car as he has his own (familiy businesses' Rockdoor & Gap) who are paying for his drive.
Also, in the wake of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union, it's pretty handy for Northern Irish people (or indeed anyone else who is eligible) to switch to an Irish passport, it means easier travel for one thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
How do you know Meeke is from Dungannon? Did some commentator tell you on wrc live? I must have missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
wikipedia? : )Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Macebig IS Jon Desborough, confirmed! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Congratulations with the great work done on the new car. It is at least as good as Toyota at the moment.
Also congratulations on taking the risk with Loeb, even though there were clear PR benefits no matter how he would do.
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For business they couldn't have gotten a better sales add. So surely drivers with money will be calling them now.
Maybe they have something to think about at the moment. With some driver changes and/or rotation they could be a challenger in manu champs, but IMO not with Greensmith and Fourmaux as nominated drivers on most rounds.
Lorenzo Bertelli says, "See you (very) soon !"
PUMA Sale #1 ?
I would hope for drivers with money and (some?) speed.
Like Loubet, Veiby, or Huttunen (seemingly not much money there).
Bertelli has liked to enter Rally Sweden and also did Arctic last year. He could also still use his own prev gen WRC car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I don't think Bertelli will ever be blocking these guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Huttunen has the WRC-2 championship to play and Sweden is a good opportunity for him in this effort. I think M-Sport will prioritize this. Rally1 drives will be only if he is good in WRC-2.
For Loubet, Sweden is not his best chance so I don’t see the point for him to pay to go to Sweden (should keep his money for later).
For Veiby, his visibility has dropped a lot so, as M-Sport is a business, I think they will prioritize who pays the most.
Also, I don’t know if M-Sport will be able to repair Fourmaux’s car in time (in general times, yes but with the new regulation + spare parts issues, may be harder this time). May affect the number of cars to rent.
Would be an interesting opportunity to see how the WRC Fiesta compares to the Rally1 Puma. On a fast rally like Sweden, the Puma may be faster?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Puma is faster than WRC17 in 2022 spec (with smaller restrictor I mean)Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
There's no such 2022 spec, restrictor is still as it was. Only restriction on WRC17 "when the driver has not scored points for a WRC Manufacturer Team in the previous five (5) seasons". Which makes it not a fair test.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex