What Happens Next?

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Originally Posted by Cart750hp

Ah, I think I get it....because if there's a merger, these fnatics will have nothing to cheer or chant about. What would happen to the CC fanatics forum? I'm here keeping an eye on that one. Oh by the way, they removed that infamous introduction coz either we make fun of it a lot or maybe finally the moderator came to his senses. Nah, I doubt it. These guys are too old to change their views.

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I don't think you have to worry about that. There's going to be mass suicide, over this, over there.

Jeff

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Originally Posted by Jacques

I think it is like splitting a baby in two in order to give a half to each of the parents.

If no one watched CC or IRL race at Milwaukee, why would they watch them together ? Same thing applies to St. Pete, WG or Homestead.

I'll repeat myself : it was never personal for me. I don't "hate" TG. I just believe that a lot of you are going to be terribly disappointed in the next 2-3 years. But, if you want to merge, go ahead and merge. It didn't help you when Ganassi, Penske, Toyota, Honda et al moved over years ago... what makes you think it will be different this time ?

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Fair question. I think the answer is simple. Positive energy attracts and negative energy repulses. The majority of fans who have had an interest in the sport want to see it whole again. They also want to see who wins when the best of the best are together in one race and in one series. The competitive environment is where value is created in sport and when there is positioning duplication or brand confusion it is very difficult to create identity differentiation and the stature that comes with it. The cars, drivers teams and events all become commodities. Unity will not change everything overnight but it will change the conversation from hopeless to hopeful for everyone but the die hard fanatics. The only way to attract new fans and new investment in the sport is to move past this ugly argument.

As for you not having an emotional position in this, I respectfully disagree. The tone and content of your posts and the fact you posts here suggests otherwise.

Okay, shoot me. I admit that I do have a deep emotional stake in the sport. This has been my life and I care deeply about what happens next. I loved what CART was and I love the Indy 500. Those two loves should not be mutually exclusive.

I will also admit I have little enthusiasm for The Amigos and fanatics who foolishly viewed them as saviors. It should be pointed out that I had the same lack of enthusiasm for the people on the other side who drove the split in the beginning. I have simply had enough of flim flam men.

I went over to the Crappies and said I came right over when I saw a mushroom cloud out of my window and wondered if the site blew up.

I'm sure my post was counted down, lol.

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Originally Posted by Jacques

Who wanted to get even with TG ?

I have said it before and I will say it again : I do not believe this is the solution to OW's problems. By concentrating so much on CC's issues, people have failed to see all that the IRL is struggling with. You think it is better or that it will be better over there, but it is not. And I do not think that it will get better.

It became personal to some of you. Even among yourselves. But it was not so for me.

All this means is that 11 CC tracks will die. In 2 years, another 8 IRL tracks will die. In the end, we will have 8 ovals and 8 road races, more or less. In other words : semi-CART 94, but with no fans.

You call that a solution ?

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WOW! Is that a direct quote from Kriskin or Nostradomus. Since when can you see the future. To use some of that psycobabble that is so tredy, now, you are projecting, here.

Jeff

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Originally Posted by cartpix

I don't think you have to worry about that. There's going to be mass suicide, over this, over there.

Jeff

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Jim Jones is preping a big punch bowl right about now...

Gary

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Jim Jones is preping a big punch bowl right about now...

Gary

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Wasn't that Kool-Aid too.

I'm a baaaad man - Nicholas Cage

Jeff

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Originally Posted by bblocker68

I went over to the Crappies and said I came right over when I saw a mushroom cloud out of my window and wondered if the site blew up.

I'm sure my post was counted down, lol.

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Barry they have softened a little lately on the count down thing ... the sure sign that cracks are forming in their Armour.

I bet you're right.

Now what can we do to keep Kansas on the schedule??? Get in your car and start protesting!!!!

Kansas is fine on the proposed merged schedule. ISC couldn't change it because it's a doubleheader with the trucks and the truck schedule is set.

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Originally Posted by indycool

Kansas is fine on the proposed merged schedule. ISC couldn't change it because it's a doubleheader with the trucks and the truck schedule is set.

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Besides, why would the France family want to accommodate open wheel? They had AOWR right where they wanted them, in chaos and completely subject to NASCAR.