what is different nowadays ??Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
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what is different nowadays ??Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
I don't get it?Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Some of that vision is from the last few years!
really? rallying is very much the same these days, not much different apart from less manuf (ok and uglier cars)Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
this is video with how I hope wrc can return to! but probably I am only dreaming right?
GROUP B in FINLAND 85-86 - YouTube
Actually this is what I do not want to see in WRC. Group B cars were horrible to drive and apart from great sound, they just do not appeal to me. I prefer these tidy modern cars anyday, specially S2000 cars are most of the time a joy to watch. It's not just all about power ... so no thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
i totally agree with cali!
Those days can never return. Nowadays a common road car has better suspension and tyres than those overpowered gr.B cars had. As You said they had great sound and huge power but compared to modern cars they were so slow in corners and braking, it was impossible to take a handbrake turn on asphalt so they either could try hairpins very very slowly or they had to reverse.
Wow, an era isn't just defined by what cars are driving. The championship really ment something in those days, it was as high profile as F1, and every single event stood out from the other.
If you ask the drivers, those cars were actually incredible to drive, not horrible. Lancia 037, damnit that's so much better than a DS3 WRC.
:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Josti
I hope your kidding... High profile was mainly due to historical context, what wasn't "bigger" back then than nowdays? Boeing 707 was a mean machine, produced helluva lot of noice, smoke, etc. but modern-day Airbus' kicks it in every feature...
Gr.B was a phenomena, yes. There's absolutely no denying it. But wishing to get those times back always makes me put the person saying it to category "rally fan" instead of "rally enthusiastic". :) One interesting fact: back in 1985 season the average winning margin was 5,1 minutes, even with Safari and Cote D'Ivoire results excluded. Now, if we look last season (2011), the average winning margin was 0,7 minutes! I wonder which is more interesting to follow - from the perspective of even results. With gr.B, there's a problem that memories have grown sweeter with time.
Yes, modern rally cars are much more technology advanced, faster in corners and SAFER, but none of them could beat that experience - 1985 1000 Lakes Rally Finland - Audi Quattro S1 Only - YouTube. This should stay in history anyway, too dangerous.
The majority of the footage in that video appeared to be from 2000-2005. During that period, there were more manufacturers, more drivers capable of winning and therefore more competition and more excitement, 2 things which are largely missing from the WRC, and have been for some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T