2011 Rallye de France , looking for info...

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Argumenting with a Greek is a privilege, I'll apologize to eveyone that I'll continue:.

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Greekphobia? :p :

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

With anti-cutting poles the product is to preserve road structure and thus make roads available for the sport in the first place. By-product is that with lesser cutting also tyres hold better. You are right that with anti-cutting poles we have less punctures, that is clearly logical, but you suggested that they were put there by the tyre manufactures in order to make them look them better. For that, I need fact, a source.

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Even i don t agree with NOT most of times,in this case he has a point.
It is strange that in rally of France,the French federation decided such a rule for the favour a French tyre manufacture.Specially after so much punctures after Germany.
To produce a more bullet proof tyre you need time.You need a totaly different tyre carcass which is going to create some other problems in tyres behaviour,in cars suspension settings etc.And the time wasn t enough between Germany and France.
Maybe we are not going to know the ''true'' reason,maybe the reason is the road protection.For sure plenty of times things are not as they look.And sometimes some things they cant announced when there is one of the bigger tyre manufacture all over the world.

ps. mates try to be polite in ours dialogue,we re here for our love and not for handbagging. ;)

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

have never measured your skills, your ability, anything against others.

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Originally Posted by Barreis

It's not good to insult anybody on the forum.

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Who is insulting who?
98% here are just made up names, they're not real humans as far as we know.
Why is it OK for one or 2 people to continually insult real people as people because they are 1% slower than some other person this time out?

Further, the tone some knowNOThings have is an insult in it's tone and intention to the entire forum and the sport.

Why should a reasonable person continue to treat such an insulting person with any mutual respect?
It has never worked before.

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Originally Posted by Miika

Petter has been disqualified because of an under-weight car -> three more points to the paper champion = Loeb and Hirvonen tied at 196 points now.
Hirvoselle lisäpisteet - tasoissa Loebin kanssa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset

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Another proof that he is deceived by the French team, the same car as Loeb and Ogier? That makes me laugh!
Without Citroen + som new factory teams, again we would have a real rally championship.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Greekphobia?

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On the quoted remark I wasn't being sarcastic. Greeks do have a history with argumentation and rhetorics, to put it simple, they had build those foundations.

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

On the quoted remark I wasn't being sarcastic. Greeks do have a history with argumentation and rhetorics, to put it simple, they had build those foundations.

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ok mate!

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Originally Posted by Brother John

Another proof that he is deceived by the French team, the same car as Loeb and Ogier? That makes me laugh!
Without Citroen + som new factory teams, again we would have a real rally championship.

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These things happened for years and they don t proove that is not the same car.Weighting less is an advantage.
Mistakes(or ''mistakes'' if you prefere) we have see for almost all manufacturers at wrc,even in irc.Skoda rear brakes,Fords window glasses etc.

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Argumenting with a Greek is a privilege, I'll apologize to eveyone that I'll continue:

With anti-cutting poles the product is to preserve road structure and thus make roads available for the sport in the first place. By-product is that with lesser cutting also tyres hold better. You are right that with anti-cutting poles we have less punctures, that is clearly logical, but you suggested that they were put there by the tyre manufactures in order to make them look them better. For that, I need fact, a source.

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Especially the the French tyre manufacture!!! hahahahaha

4 kg less. Pitty for a good result for Petter..

World Rally Championship - News - BREAKING NEWS: Petter excluded from rally

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Originally Posted by dimviii

These things happened for years and they don t proove that is not the same car.Weighting less is an advantage.
Mistakes(or ''mistakes'' if you prefere) we have see for almost all manufacturers at wrc,even in irc.Skoda rear brakes,Fords window glasses etc.

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And Peugeot in the previous IRC rally, you still all have to wake up!