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That is nearly impossible. I have seen the solution that such rail guard endings are isolated by using hayballs. Only on the most dangerous places (e.g. outside the corners). It is the cheapest solution and absorbs and bounches the car away very effectively. But does add some cost to the rally organization indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Sad news...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I wouldn't say the kinetic energy of the car is relevant. The force you need to overturn is that required to buckle or better divert the railguard. I would think it's possible to accommodate reasonable protection for limited areas like wheel arches without adding hundreds of kg.
I donīt think your comment is relevant. Trees you can be seen and judge where they are more easy. Those fences can turn up where you donīt wait to see them. They can also be hided in grass and be missjudged by the driver not being at the place you put your car. I think these two accidents tells the seroius matter it is with those guards or fences...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
But still as you say rallying is a dangerous sport.
Try to think about it more. How would You like to do that in reality? I saw an X5 BMW penetrated all along it's length through V8 cylinder block. You would need something like a snow-plough to make the car safe against such penetration. Here the problem unfortunately is in the type of rails, very little can be done with cars. Maybe they will add some anti-penetration kevlar layers on the motor wall in the future but the real income will be more or less only psychological I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
to ban a stage because of a dangerous componet i think it is not right....because there is not a single safe stage in the world if you go by this logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Maybe a solution would be the organisers to spot those unecessary hazards and fix them before the stage is run...
but then again at such speeds there are very few things that are not dangerous...so the solution is to make the cars as safe as possible and then count on luck... we had 2 serious accidents in a 3 year span with those guard rails... now count how many accidents with serious injuries we had due to Concrete walls, trees in that time ects and you can see my point.
A tragedy like this, especially when a person at the peak of his youth is involved, cannot be expreesed by any words invented by men so far...
RIP Gareth. I wonder if Craig will withdraw from motorsport as a result.
Itīs still a huge hazard having iron bars alongside the road pointing in the direction against running cars in height just where drivers are placed. I didnīt say or mean ban the whole stages, just places or parts of stages that having such fences. Myabe the amount of possible stages will decrease but in order to put safety first it would be a good way to handle safety in especially tarmac rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
R.I.P Gareth...
I think there's no obvious solution like this
Rally is one of the most dangerous class of motorsport and, these things are happened some times..
why you consider a guard rail more dangerous than those trees in rallies on the outside of 6th gear bends ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
If you put safety first you cannot have any kind of motorsport.
Those rails are there to make road safer, but as i know there aint a thing that cant kill u if u are just unlucky. But yes those old guard rails look dangerus when the ends are not burried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper