[WRC] News & rumours (part III)

The problem with hybrids is that it's a technology non-suitable for use by privateers. It's too complicated and it must be extremely costly for private teams. In rallying they also have to work in very rough conditions so I'm a bit afraid of safety. Especially of spectators who push cars back on the road after crashes. That's something not present on circuits. Circuit cars have warning lights showing when marshals/mechanics must not touch them but such warning can not work with a crowd of partly drunk ordinary people.

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Originally Posted by PLuto

I dont want hybrid technology in rallysport, at least not now. I want same rules for everybody. And it is difficult to have correct regulations for petrol, diesel or hybrid cars. We can see how this new technologies destroyed WEC...

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Destroyed WEC?? Are you being serious.... It's the strongest of the FiA World Championships... With more Manufacturers joining; as it's road relevant technology.
However, the Privateers don't have to use hybrids, as it's too costly. That could be something for the WRC to consider if they went down the hybrid route.

As Mirek has said, the safety issue with hybrids is a concern. They could get around this from banning spectators..... And only having viewing zones... ;) ( I'm only joking)

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Very good! More power, all we need now is less friction/grip from the tires, and limited suspension travel, and we have a show!

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Originally Posted by Lundefaret

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Very good! More power, all we need now is less friction/grip from the tires, and limited suspension travel, and we have a show!

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there is already a sport for you to enjoy...

http://formulad.com/

no need to implement stupid ideas to the WRC.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

there is already a sport for you to enjoy...

http://formulad.com/

no need to implement stupid ideas to the WRC.

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Hehe;) "Stupid is what stupid does"

I was thinking more in the lines of Group B, but I guess You think that Group B rallying is the lowpoint of the rallysport;)

There are three very important factors that suggests that lowering grip/friction is a good way to go:

1) Safety (lower cornering speeds)
2) Longevity (the tires and cars of today creates so much grip that they are very tough on the roads. This destruction of the roads, both in the WRC and in local rallies (we are of cource talking about gravel) translates in to it being more and more difficult to find roads to arrange rallies on, and more and more expensive to hire/rebuild the roads.)
3) Show (for obvious reasons)

N.O.T. not always knows what we´re talking about Lundefaret. You have a point when it comes to WRC to be more spectacular. Better so than having Superrally and shoot-outs.

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Originally Posted by Lundefaret

Hehe;) "Stupid is what stupid does"

I was thinking more in the lines of Group B, but I guess You think that Group B rallying is the lowpoint of the rallysport;)

There are three very important factors that suggests that lowering grip/friction is a good way to go:

1) Safety (lower cornering speeds)
2) Longevity (the tires and cars of today creates so much grip that they are very tough on the roads. This destruction of the roads, both in the WRC and in local rallies (we are of cource talking about gravel) translates in to it being more and more difficult to find roads to arrange rallies on, and more and more expensive to hire/rebuild the roads.)
3) Show (for obvious reasons)

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So you want more power but lower cornering speeds.... that makes sense... why you want more power then ?

Longenity of the roads is just a joke to use as an excuse... and again how exactly more power is going to add to that ?

And as for show you can visit local village road shows if you consider drifts "show".

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

So you want more power but lower cornering speeds.... that makes sense... why you want more power then ?

Longenity of the roads is just a joke to use as an excuse... and again how exactly more power is going to add to that ?

And as for show you can visit local village road shows if you consider drifts "show".

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More power + less grip from suspension, tyres and diffs would make WRC more spectacular and less like racing lines on forests as it is now. What would be wrong with more show for spectators? The biggest problem of WRC today is not enough spectators (TV mostly). The drifts show probably are more popular than WRC now...

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

So you want more power but lower cornering speeds.... that makes sense... why you want more power then ?

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Strictly technically speaking there is no contradiction in that statement. Cornering speed has nothing to do with power.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Strictly technically speaking there is no contradiction in that statement. Cornering speed has nothing to do with power.

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technically speaking yes there is not a contradiction since cornering speed is dependent on traction, but in real life terms when you have 2 corners close to each other the car must have enough power to reach the limit of traction speed.